BTN vs Blind hand

[BorisTheSpider]

MP ($21.82)
CO ($26.84)
Button ($46.27)
Hero (SB) ($25.08)
BB ($85.73)
UTG ($27.52)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q
4 folds, Hero bets $0.62, BB raises to $1.95, Hero calls $1.33

Flop: ($3.90) 8, K, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.86, BB calls $1.86

Turn: ($7.62) J (2 players)
Hero bets $3.64, BB raises to $8.65, Hero ?????


BB is a competent reg who I've been stealing a lot of blinds from, and has started 3betting me pretty light when I'm on the BTN. His 3bet stat was 10% but he was 3bing probably 1/3 of my button opens.

Do you betfold the turn?

[OngBonga]

Fold turn, not close. (as played, yeah b/f)

Not sure about earlier streets, I'd probably just fold pre to the 3bet, I don't want to play this hand oop in a 3bet pot against someone who appears to have flicked his aggression switch. Think I'd just move on to another table if the guy to my left is giving me too much of a hard time. Plus I'd probably c/r flop rather than donk, assuming I call his 3bet. But that's me, there's probably nothing wrong with this hand provided you fold to the turn raise.

[Imthenewfish]

i think you're better off 4b'ing pre, i don't understand flop donk, yeah turn is an easy fold

[tiltingdonkey]

i think you're better off 4b'ing pre, i don't understand flop donk, yeah turn is an easy fold

Why is 4betting better?

Not sure about what I'm talking about, but assuming villain is competent won't he be 3betting a polarized range (I'm probably wrong here)? And that a good way to counter this is to flat a merged range, assuming we play good postflop (and I'm probably wrong again)?

I'm not deluding myself thinking that I really understand this. If ever my understanding of this is probably 1 out of 10. Could you help me understand why 4betting is better? and sorry for the hijack.

[Imthenewfish]

4betting would be turning our hand into a bluff with blockers, which i'd prefer to do here as opposed to flatting and playing out of position post flop. he probably is 3 betting a polarized range, but calling in 3 bet pots out of position will usually put you in really hard spots

[BorisTheSpider]

calling in 3 bet pots out of position will usually put you in really hard spots

Word.

[tiltingdonkey]

4betting would be turning our hand into a bluff with blockers, which i'd prefer to do here as opposed to flatting and playing out of position post flop. he probably is 3 betting a polarized range, but calling in 3 bet pots out of position will usually put you in really hard spots

Oh yeah sorry. I was mislead by the title, thought we're on the button.

[acg123]

Id call pre, c-c flop and prolly donk-fold turn.

[rpm]

yah fold turn

[Icanhastreebet]

Why are people "easy folding" the turn? If the K is an out to go with our SD we have 10 outs which is an auto call. If we can make 5$ on average on the river when we bink the straight it is an auto call. Also Q might be an out that he'll shut down on a high % of the time and an 8 could be an out.

I don't understand where all these "easy fold turn" comments are coming from unless you are all snap putting him on AQ/AA(reads dictate this isn't the case). I think it's super close between call fold and either option is probably fine with the reads we have.

[baudib]

I think those are pretty questionable assumptions. We're worried about a lot more hands than AA and AQ; he can have sets and KJ too. If he has AQ then 9 is a terrible card for us, K is a terrible card if he has AQ/AK/KJ. About the only hand we have 10+ outs against is JT.

[Icanhastreebet]

I think those are pretty questionable assumptions. We're worried about a lot more hands than AA and AQ; he can have sets and KJ too. If he has AQ then 9 is a terrible card for us, K is a terrible card if he has AQ/AK/KJ. About the only hand we have 10+ outs against is JT.

I think it's mildly insane to assume he will be calling a lot of combos of sets on the flop. We said he is 3bing light, he could have 98s/T8s/Axcc etc. A tonne of stuff. Yes we are playing a guessing game on the river so I'd lean towards a fold but "insta folding" when a guy is apparently running us over is super silly.

Also v a set we have 18% anyway so it's not like that being a part of his range really hurts us. You can't just assume he is floating AQ and and isn't floating other shit like QJ and getting to the turn not having a sweet clue what he should be doing etc.