78s...Villain's Range???

[Cobra_1878]

Villains very first hand.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $2.77
MP: $2.06
CO: $3.92
BTN: $4.25
SB: $3.33
Hero (BB): $2.00

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02, CO posts DB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.05) Hero has 7 8

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.08, fold, SB calls $0.07, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.24, 3 players) 2 7 5
SB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.48, 3 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets $0.36, CO raises to $1.90, fold, Hero ???

I haven't got a clue what villain is doing....can anyone help me out? I can't call but just curious what people put villain on with no reads.

[daven]

doesn't really matter what his range is. It's rare for an unknown to play like this with hands you beat, that's all you can really do range-wise without any stats/read.

fold pre, raise flop

[Hoopy]

Preflop is not usually a call unless one of the players is a fish.

Just fold turn, turn raises from unknowns (at micros) should always be treated as strong until proven otherwise.

[WeldPhaser]

fold pre. unknown has POS on ya, and rarely gonna flop megamonster .

i would really be careful about over-leveling your opp's cobra. you can drive yourself mad trying to figure out what villains are repping. he raised the turn. the turn is a queen. he prob has a queen.

at the levels we're playing at . so much of the play is exactly as it seems.

[Cobra_1878]

Can I ask why everyone has said fold pre? I realise I only have SC's but I am getting 3:1 on my money, is that not good enough to see a flop with?

[WeldPhaser]

its just not going to play well vs. unknown oop , i mean look ya flopped top pair, and OTT ur flush draw is there, but can ya still cont???

[Cobra_1878]

I see your point but I can use the same argument against an unknown that my TP and then an added FD might be ahead. Obviously wasn't expecting a big raise though.

[agnesamurphy]

I wouldn't fold pre. You're priced in to call and if you hit big on the flop then you have the chance to win a really big pot, while your two opponents will have trouble putting you on a hand.

However, on this flop, I would fold to the SB bet. He's donk betting on that flop, and I would be worried about his range as well as the CO villain. On the flop, you have top pair with an okay kicker, with only runner runner draws.

[WeldPhaser]

I wouldn't fold pre. You're priced in to call and if you hit big on the flop then you have the chance to win a really big pot, while your two opponents will have trouble putting you on a hand.

However, on this flop, I would fold to the SB bet. He's donk betting on that flop, and I would be worried about his range as well as the CO villain. On the flop, you have top pair with an okay kicker, with only runner runner draws.

???? Im not sure i believe what your saying bud..... Priced in with what .. their initial raises??

the SB donks 1/3 pot, if anything I would raise the crap out of him, but we have to worry about the CO having POs on us....

Their are 6 kickers better than 8.

[daven]

Can I ask why everyone has said fold pre? I realise I only have SC's but I am getting 3:1 on my money, is that not good enough to see a flop with?

3 types of advantage in poker, it's nice to have at least one of these when you enter a hand, two or three is even better.

skill advantage
positional advantage
card advantage

skill advantage relates heavily to reads and the ability to act on those reads. You have no reads vs unknowns.
positional advantage relates to being in position. You aren't.
card advantage relates to having better cards than the others. You have 8-hi

[d0zer]

don't fold pre daven you nit

[Fnord]

I let the wookie win on the turn.

[daven]

don't fold pre daven you nit

fair enough
flop decision as played?

worth noting that i will not always fold this 100bb deep - and it would depend a lot on the small blind, about whom we are provided no information.

this suggests that maybe op should fold here?

I haven't got a clue

[tiltingdonkey]

@daven/dozer why are you quoting yourself?