[10NL] AA...bad board facing maniac shove

[Cobra_1878]

Villain is 56/33/8 over 83 hands. Villain donks flops 33% of the time, 4/12.

Villain obv did some crazy shit, called 3bets OOP with 87o/72s etc etc, defended his blinds with all sort of shit as well 52o/62o etc etc.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $10.72
BTN: $11.24
SB: $6.70
BB: $4.91
UTG: $31.01
Hero (MP): $10.55

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to $0.35, fold, fold, SB calls $0.30, fold

Flop: ($0.80, 2 players) 6 5 8
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.80, 2 players) 4
SB bets $5.85 and is all-in, Hero ???

Villain seemed to like donking but I didn't know what this meant yet as I don't think I saw him go to showdown. I hate folding here but I think this flop just smacks villain's range and he has at least 2 pair here most of the time?

Is anyone raising the flop? I figured I was probably ahead and if he was bluffing or value betting (lol) any 8x type hand he might have I will just let him keep firing. Obviously wasn't planning on a disgusting turn card.

Fold and wait for a better spot?

[Carroters]

Raise flop and shove most turns for sure. Probably grudge fold this turn as played.

[Savy]

why is value betting 8x lol?

What's your range here? Do we have to call w/ AA to not be exploitable? If so why? And fold.

[griffey24]

Given flop texture, you pretty much have every 7x in your preflop range getting to the turn, so I don't think you need to call here.

[Savy]

How much of his MP opening range is 7x though? I imagine like 77.

[daven]

raise flop
fold turn as played

[Cobra_1878]

why is value betting 8x lol?

What's your range here? Do we have to call w/ AA to not be exploitable? If so why? And fold.

I think my range is fairly tight here, 66+, and against this villain I probably peel off a turn card with all broadways as well.

Given flop texture, you pretty much have every 7x in your preflop range getting to the turn, so I don't think you need to call here.

I don't get this? As Savy said, I think the only 7x I have in my range is 77.

[griffey24]

sure 77, the odd 67s/78s sometimes? I'd call sets here too on the turn.

If there was a FD on the flop I'd be more tempted to call here. The only thing still making it tempting is that he's just over bet jamming which is odd. The fact that he's SOO loose worries me that he's just rampant jamming some dumb hand like 45, 46 here.

[Savy]

I think my range is fairly tight here, 66+, and against this villain I probably peel off a turn card with all broadways as well.

My point though is that in a spot like this you can just get bullied about so badly by any player who is aware of roughly what your range is (which a good player would be if they studied your game), so you need to be adding some hands into your MP range. This villain like 99% isn't doing that obviously, but it's good to know about the problem before it comes one.

So what Griffey said basically about adding some combos of SC's into your range, nothing to make us really exploitable, just much harder to play against.

[Carroters]

A half stacked aggro 3 betting fish is not my favourite BB to be opening 87/76s against in the HJ.

[griffey24]

A half stacked aggro 3 betting fish is not my favourite BB to be opening 87/76s against in the HJ.

Really? He's not THAT short, he's like 70bb. I would love to have a SC in position on a whale who's calling garbage 72o/87o to 3bets, let alone a single raise.

If anything I'd be opening up more to isolate the whale all day.

[Savy]

A half stacked aggro 3 betting fish is not my favourite BB to be opening 87/76s against in the HJ.

Although his stack reduces are implied odds a little the fact that he is an aggro fish means that we are going to stack him a lot of the time though. I also think it's just a case of adding a handful of combos of hands like not every possible combo.

But I dunno, I made the point without knowing he was short stacked, but it was still just more of a general point to be aware of than DO THIS!!

[USN4Life09]

Fold, should of been more aggressive after the flop.

[Carroters]

Really? He's not THAT short, he's like 70bb. I would love to have a SC in position on a whale who's calling garbage 72o/87o to 3bets, let alone a single raise.

If anything I'd be opening up more to isolate the whale all day.

Yeah you're right, obv we should open 87s. I was being dumb.

[bikes]

raise more pre to exploit this cally fish.

raise flop big. really big. exploit exploit exploit.

fold turn.