lp 3bets with Kxs, flop and turn play?

[daven]

hand 1: villain is 19-12-7 with 40% fold to 3b and 30% 4b, 60% fold to cbet, his calling range here is pretty much 22-JJ. He's reg and down a bit to me, he seems to fold vs my bluffs and call my value bets. Often expresses surprise in chat about what cards i showdown with. flop sizing? turn plan?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (Button) ($25.56)
SB ($10.33)
BB ($99.94)
UTG ($8.05)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($26.58)
CO ($24.67)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 7
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) 8, 4, 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.60, MP2 calls $3.60

Turn: ($12.75) 7 (2 players)
MP2 checks, what's a guy to do???

hand 2: villain is 12-9 with 75% fold to 3b and 6% 4b. He might have recognised that I 3b a bit by now. 63% fold to flop cbet, 60% W$WSD, 70% fold to turn cbet

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MP2 ($33.96)
Hero (CO) ($25)
Button ($25)
SB ($23.65)
BB ($12.51)
UTG ($26.94)
UTG+1 ($7.50)
MP1 ($30.36)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, 8
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) 2, 8, 6 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.55) 5 (2 players)
MP2 bets $2.77, hero?

hand 3: villain is unknown 23-11 35 hands. Flop cbet? turn play? river plan if i check back turn?
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MP2 ($33.91)
Hero (CO) ($26.10)
Button ($9.45)
SB ($11.54)
BB ($6.99)
UTG ($32.67)
MP1 ($37.02)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3, K
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.85, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.05) 8, K, 4 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.83, MP2 calls $2.83

Turn: ($9.71) J (2 players)
MP2 checks,

[griffey24]

Hand 1 - ck, re-eval river, no reason to do anything else

hand 2 - Easy turn call again no reason why you would do anything else.

Hand 3 - I don't hate betting or checking here. If we check, then I'm snappy river, if we bet then I don't hate cking back river.

[postiga]

1- check
2- call
3- check

[daven]

good for my sanity that those turns were abc, i thought they were, but i'm wrong often enough, and now for the rivers!

Hand 1 - ck, re-eval river, no reason to do anything else

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 7
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) 8, 4, 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.60, MP2 calls $3.60

Turn: ($12.75) 7 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.75) K (2 players)
MP2 checks, hero skinny??

hand 2 - Easy turn call again no reason why you would do anything else.

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, 8
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) 2, 8, 6 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.55) 5 (2 players)
MP2 bets $2.77, Hero calls $2.77

River: ($11.09) 7 (2 players)
MP2 checks, too thin?

Hand 3 - I don't hate betting or checking here. If we check, then I'm snappy river, if we bet then I don't hate cking back river.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3, K
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.85, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.05) 8, K, 4 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.83, MP2 calls $2.83

Turn: ($9.71) J (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.71) 2 (2 players)
MP2 bets $3.88, snap?

[BorisTheSpider]

Action prior to river, agree 100% with griffey


River 1 - I wanna bet, but I cant see much worse can call. I think I check.

River 2 - Yeah, seems WAY too thin - he's 12/9 ffs

River 3 - Sizing pre is wierd, and stats suggest a moderately tight fish making a scared-money bluff rather than a deliberately sized thin value bet. I snap it off.

[MadMojoMonkey]

[15:21] <madmojomonkey> 3 hands in one post is tilting for me, so I aboid it
[15:21] <madmojomonkey> but for you... now

[15:22] <madmojomonkey> H1) bet whatever... 1/2 ish
[15:22] <madmojomonkey> H2) EZ check
[15:22] <madmojomonkey> H3 fold

[15:26] <daven> hand 1 - bet on a four straight board? nice, i was thinking 1/3 pot though
[15:26] <madmojomonkey> You think Villain is capable of checking a straight twice?
[15:27] <madmojomonkey> *DO you think
[15:27] <daven> good point
[15:27] <madmojomonkey> a question is not a point
[15:27] <daven> i was looking at $3-$5
[15:27] <madmojomonkey> *grrr (pet peeve)
[15:28] <madmojomonkey> yah, me, too... but maybe $6 is fine, too...
[15:28] <daven> the answer to the question is a point, and the point is that it is unlikely that villain checks a straight twice

[abelardx]

I would cbet hand 2 and keep betting hands 1 and 2 ott. I don't think there's a lot of 6's in his 3bet calling range for hand 1. Hand 3 I'd pot control and try to get to showdown cheap. Why didn't you cbet hand 2? I'd like to charge him to hit his 6-outer.

On the river I'd bet hand 1 with two pair. I think you could easily get called by worse. Hand 2 I'd just check it back. I don't think you can bet for value there. Hand 3 I'd call but not be super thrilled about it.