[5NL] KQo against aggro villain

[Cobra_1878]

Villain is 27/21/16 (3bet) over 93 hands. FTCB 0%, 3/3. Villain was most aggressive pre and on flop.

Notes on villain: Villain was 3betting me and raising me on the flop a lot.

We had history, he 3bet squeezed OOP w/ AQo. We stacked off on mono flop, I had a set he had NFD w/ 2 overs. He won the hand, he may think I am tilting as I was starting to push back a lot more.

He seemed really agg w/ draws, stacking off (albeit against a shortstack) w/ A7s on flop w/ an OESD.

Had seen him just call w/ AQs in BB against BU. C/c flop w/ TPTK, check/check.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.00
UTG: $5.00
Hero (CO): $7.28
BTN: $12.13
SB: $7.90

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K Q

fold, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, fold

Flop: ($0.65, 3 players) 5 2 Q
SB checks, Hero bets $0.46, BTN raises to $1.54, fold, Hero calls $1.08

Turn: ($3.73, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.51, Hero ???

I was getting pretty frustrated with his aggression but I wasn't sure if this was the hand to take a stand with? He may have hit the Ace but he raised me on the flop, I think AQ should be heavily discounted, but I'm not sure if he plays a worse Qx this way either.

[Savy]

Why would he play worse Queens this way? fold

[Cobra_1878]

Why would he play worse Queens this way? fold

Because he is stupidly aggressive? You're putting him on an Ax if you want to fold then?

[griffey24]

Do you know what he was raising you on the flops with? Have you seen any of his hands?

It really depends how much of a thinking player he is. If he realizes he's been raising you then it's more likely he shows up with legit.

If he was raising gutters on the flop A3/A4 then he obv got there on turn. Or random AJ/AT stuff too. Turn is definitely not great. That being said if you have seen him raising flops with a lot of 9T/JT/KJ/ mid pair nonsense then he will bluff all of these on the turn.

mostly depends what range you put him on.

[The Bean Counter]

Pretty shitty seat for you, but fine if you're using it to learn how to play op against lags, rather than for profit.

Flop play is fine given texture and villain imo. Turn is one of only a few bad cards for you and I'd fold and move on to a better spot to nail this villain to the wall for 110bb+.

[abelardx]

If you're not going all the way, fold here. I agree with Bean Counter.

[Cobra_1878]

Do you know what he was raising you on the flops with? Have you seen any of his hands?

It really depends how much of a thinking player he is. If he realizes he's been raising you then it's more likely he shows up with legit.

If he was raising gutters on the flop A3/A4 then he obv got there on turn. Or random AJ/AT stuff too. Turn is definitely not great. That being said if you have seen him raising flops with a lot of 9T/JT/KJ/ mid pair nonsense then he will bluff all of these on the turn.

mostly depends what range you put him on.

I hadn't seen what he was raising me with, I was folding to his aggression until I felt sure that he had enough bluffs in his range.

Pretty shitty seat for you, but fine if you're using it to learn how to play op against lags, rather than for profit.

Flop play is fine given texture and villain imo. Turn is one of only a few bad cards for you and I'd fold and move on to a better spot to nail this villain to the wall for 110bb+.

Yeah, I had position on a fish so it was kinda tough. Wasn't planning on sticking around too much longer though.

I thought about waiting for a better spot but I didn't want to keep getting pushed off my hands or let someone else get his stack.

[Savy]

Because he is stupidly aggressive? You're putting him on an Ax if you want to fold then?

Nah, I'm putting him on a range with which I think that ace improves substantially. He could still be doing it with stupid shit like 77 but we're OOP so until we can better put him on a range it's just awkward.

It isn't like 22, 55, QQ, AA, AQ, AK, AJ aren't all in our range. So folding shouldn't worry us too much.

[Tom1559]

Seems to me regardless of his previous aggression that he almost certainly has you beat here. Hard as it is to take this is a fold so you can use your remaining chips to start rebuilding your stack.

[sky4ever]

depending on how aggro he is I might calldown to reach showdown

[Pigmond]

wow - I clearly have a lot to learn - given he is so aggro and the background and him only calling PF why aren't we small 3-betting the flop? What's he playing like that that beats us? 22, 55 or AQ? No way. We either take a nice pot there and then or use his aggro against him to induce a shove-bluff

[BorisTheSpider]

This is why it sucks to be OOP against someone capable of applying pressure. Even if they are not very good, unless you are an absolute ton better than they are it's still a sucky place to be and their positional advantage outweighs most of their skill deficit.

It does depend what kind of range you give him how unlikely it is that he has 22/55 here, but he definitely can have them. As someone else pointed out, he can also be raising gutters on the flop and now he hit the turn.

You mention he slowplayed AQs, and slowplayed when he made TPTK. That is quite a pattern with spewy, aggro maniacs - all the time they are going nuts betting and raising, they have nothing (or a very weak hand), it's when they suddenly go passive that you need to give them credit for a hand. In that sense, they are the exact mirror-image of a passive fish. I'm not saying this guy is a maniac, it just seems marginally possible, but his preflop stats suggests probably not (or at least not an out-and-out one) since they are normally much looser pre.

That doesn't really help, given that the turn could easily have improved him though - if he's already started bluffing the flop, he may feel that gives him "cover" to keep betting on the turn.