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  1. #1

    Default BBvBTN, decent draw turns weak top pair

    BTN is pretty loose and aggressive, verging on the maniac. Opens 50% of his buttons.

    Playing this any different?

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $25 (100 bb)
    SB: $39.81 (159.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $28.95 (115.8 bb)
    UTG: $22.87 (91.5 bb)
    MP: $43.23 (172.9 bb)
    CO: $47.50 (190 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q J
    3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

    Flop: ($1.60) T 9 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $1.75

    Turn: ($7.60) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.75, BTN calls $3.75

    River: ($15.10) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks
  2. #2
    The only thing I would do differently is c/c OTT. If Villain is opening 50% of his buttons & is loose aggressive, then I'm going to let him hang himself and build this pot for me. A Villain like that would love this board because it gives him reasons to push. I can easily conceive a villain like this barreling 3 streets w/ a 10 or a 9.
  3. #3
    I would c/f this river. I open 50% of buttons, and villains range has a TONN of flushes in it right now. Not to mention two pairs / straights that wouldn't have raised the turn due to flush coming.

    Also if you're going to raise flops OOP, you gotta legit raise it. $4.50 or $4.75 to go.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  4. #4
    Also if you're going to raise flops OOP, you gotta legit raise it. $4.50 or $4.75 to go.
    I agree with c/f'ing river, but again I disagree with your sizing. I realise this is probably my problem. On flop I'm making it around x2.5, so $3.00-$3.25 seems about right. My reasoning for this is because the air in his range is folding ragardless how much we raise, while I don't expect an extra dollar or so to make him fold anything out that he calls for less. I don't want to make it so expensive to bluff.

    Are you making it this big because you want it to look like you're setting up for stacks?
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    ongies gonna ong
  5. #5
    Reviewing my other post: Yes I agree, $4.50 or so may be extreme, but I don't see anything wrong with $3.5-3.75 territory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  6. #6
    I'm making it big because that's the size I would use with TTT/999/T9/666/78 and all my draws. If you make it $3 villain is getting around 3.5:1. That's pretty good odds on this type of board, when we're OOP.

    I don't hate $3, but with our value hands when we're OOP we might want to make it bigger because we will be facing a lot of bad runouts where we may be prone to making mistakes. ie: villain will be in profitable spots when we check, knowing we will often be c/f.

    Sure if the board is K73 rainbow, I can see some merit to making it smaller, but not on this board.
    Last edited by griffey24; 11-11-2013 at 11:37 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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