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10NLZ - Turn Shove

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  1. #1

    Default 10NLZ - Turn Shove

    $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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    6 Players

    Stacks:
    UTG Player4 ($32.65) 327bb
    UTG+1 Player5 ($29.26) 293bb
    CO Player6 ($11.36) 114bb
    BTN ImSavy ($10) 100bb
    SB Player2 ($34.24) 342bb
    BB Player3 ($4.62) 46bb

    Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) ImSavy is BTN
    3 folds, ImSavy raises to $0.25, 1 fold, Player3 calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.55, 2 players)
    Player3 bets $0.20, ImSavy raises to $0.90, Player3 calls $0.70

    Turn: ($2.35, 2 players)
    Player3 checks, ImSavy bets $1.30, Player3 goes all-in $3.47, ImSavy calls $2.17

    Raise flop bigger, bet/fold turn?

    He probably doens't have many strong Ax hands in his range, I have plenty of sets & flushes in my range. So there's no reason I should be calling this, he has a poorly played set or a flush here all day long imo.
    Last edited by Savy; 11-25-2013 at 06:59 PM.
  2. #2
    Disgusting turn card, I think only A would have been worse. A whole load of draws just got there and I'm probably gonna chk behind on turn and re-eval on river.

    I assume villain is an unknown?

    If you're going to bet the turn, given villain's stack size, b/f seems insane.
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  3. #3
    This is the nut worst card possible almost... don't see why we're betting here?

    Now that we've bet we need 23.5% equity to call here. Stove it up!
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    This is the nut worst card possible almost... don't see why we're betting here?

    Now that we've bet we need 23.5% equity to call here. Stove it up!
    Ye, it's a call. Ain't even that close really. Villain needs to be bluffing a few combos and his range has almost no sets in. Stuff like K9, K7, AdTx, AdQx are all reasonable enough.

    Give me some alternative options on how to play it and how they play out on the river then please.
    Last edited by Savy; 11-25-2013 at 09:19 PM.
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    Raise more on the flop. Bet more on the turn and don't plan on folding. Flushes and straights aren't as likely as they seem. There are just as many pair + draw combinations that are planning to call any size bet.
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    Gah just noticed villain only has 46bb.

    Yah I agree with Renton, just bet like $1.75ish/call cause he won't be able to fold his AdJ/AdQ/KxQd/AdK/QQd stuff anyways.
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    Top 2 versus a shortie is normally a stack off other than the most horrendous boards. This board is pretty bad but still not one of the few that I'd consider doing anything other than stacking off on.
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    Bet sizing is kind of weakish, as is a trend in this particular sub-forum, but you can't possibly consider folding (or playing pot control) at any point in this hand.

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