5$ zone ?

[acg123]

hero is MP with opens 0.17, CO calls, SB calls.

pot is 0.56 ( on screen pot is 0.51)

flop comes

SB donks for 0.58, hero calls, CO folds

pot is 1.72

Turn drops

SB bets 0.99, hero calls

river come

SB tanks...checks, hero checks

SB shows

[Keith]

i moved this from the 10nl zone thread since it looks like a 5nl hand and theres no commentary /explanation for it . I'm guessing you are trying to show what they call pre and pot pot with.


in this hand why not raise the turn and charge his flush draws and straight draws to continue

[PokerKing]

Without any stats it's hard to judge if there's any reason for you just to call all the way. I would have raised him on the Flop to get infos on where I am in the hand

[kingmotan]

I personally do not agree with the raise for info thingy.
Villain is potting flop and we have an opponent left to act. Call flop is perfectly fine. We have position.
Turn isn't perfect but it's a reasonably good card for us, notice that he slowed down with bet size showing that he didn't improve, so we can assume we are still ahead, call is fine, let him go nuts on river.
When he checks river you KNOW you have the better hand like 80% of the time, that is why you are missing value by not making a small 1/3 pot value bet, which will be called by exactly his type of hand 77 88 99 TT + QJ QT etc.
This is a leak for most micro players, being passive on river with a good hand due to bad (0) hand reading and not putting villains on ranges.
Show him that not him, but you were in control of the hand all along

[PokerKing]

I personally do not agree with the raise for info thingy.
Villain is potting flop and we have an opponent left to act. Call flop is perfectly fine. We have position.
Turn isn't perfect but it's a reasonably good card for us, notice that he slowed down with bet size showing that he didn't improve, so we can assume we are still ahead, call is fine, let him go nuts on river.
When he checks river you KNOW you have the better hand like 80% of the time, that is why you are missing value by not making a small 1/3 pot value bet, which will be called by exactly his type of hand 77 88 99 TT + QJ QT etc.
This is a leak for most micro players, being passive on river with a good hand due to bad (0) hand reading and not putting villains on ranges.
Show him that not him, but you were in control of the hand all along

You are right kingmotan. But some stats would still have been nice

[kingmotan]

You are right kingmotan. But some stats would still have been nice

Oh stats always help, for sure, but you would have needed a lot of hands on this guy in order to have some numbers for donk flop, 2barrel, 3barrel , c/c c/f and c/r river .
Op probably doesn't have a hud and that's perfectly fine when playing 1-6 tables.

[acg123]

Oh stats always help, for sure, but you would have needed a lot of hands on this guy in order to have some numbers for donk flop, 2barrel, 3barrel , c/c c/f and c/r river .
Op probably doesn't have a hud and that's perfectly fine when playing 1-6 tables.

yep, no hud, no stats, and also no names on site. only numbers, so its basically you against the player "pool".

[daven]

yep, no hud, no stats, and also no names on site. only numbers, so its basically you against the player "pool".

there's likely one read available, not concrete or solid but it's something to go on as a tool to break it into playing against two pools, each with different characteristics.
i'll give you a clue, it related to the answer to "is there an auto-topup to 100bb facility on this site?"

[acg123]

there's likely one read available, not concrete or solid but it's something to go on as a tool to break it into playing against two pools, each with different characteristics.
i'll give you a clue, it related to the answer to "is there an auto-topup to 100bb facility on this site?"

Ummmm..yes there are definitly specific pool reads, but no theres no auto top up. Im quite confused by that question. Im so terrible with clues..lol

[MadMojoMonkey]

I think he's saying, or at least it's absolutely true in my experience on Bovada ring games, that stack size is a direct correlation to player skill.

Players with less than 100BB's in their starting stack are generally not strong players. Players with less than 50BB are usually total fish.

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The overriding principle is that there is always something to read off a person.

[acg123]

I think he's saying, or at least it's absolutely true in my experience on Bovada ring games, that stack size is a direct correlation to player skill.

Players with less than 100BB's in their starting stack are generally not strong players. Players with less than 50BB are usually total fish.

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The overriding principle is that there is always something to read off a person.

Ty sir.

Btw we had 150BBs effective in this hand just so you guys know.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Ty sir.

Btw we had 150BBs effective in this hand just so you guys know.

You're welcome.

(You hear that guys? It's sir MadMojoMonkey now!)

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Starting stacks are vital when you think about how you play a hand.

[acg123]

Correctamundo. 100bbs+ i expect villians to be comeptent and capable of making a play vs a percieved range. Thai said, i think we missed out on discussing my perceived range and what types of hands our villian is expecting us to raise/call/fold with. Ive noticed that in my past few HHs ive posted that the main focus is heros exact two cards. Since this is a readless game then i expect competent villians to be playing a range vs. Making moves asthe only reads they have those created during the hand.

[Keith]

do you think hero's and villains range alters 150 bbs deep compared to 100 bb deep.?

[acg123]

do you think hero's and villains range alters 150 bbs deep compared to 100 bb deep.?

Of course. I dont think it is an insane amount, but i expect to be called/raised a little lighter.

[griffey24]

I like how you played the hand, and I think it's fine.

If you think villain is not the tricky type, then I can see value to a small river bet (half pot), since FD bricked.