2nl Snap TPTK OTF vs SLP

[DJAbacus]

No HUDs. Read Villian as a SLP at best after they limp and call + stack size.

When Villain calls my bet OTT I suddenly realise that I got that all wrong and I'm not happy with UTG calling at all here at all. There are plenty of hands in his range that beat me Tx KQ but there are also hands in his range that I beat AQ AJ maybe a few other Ax hands. I've effectively turned my hand into a bluff. I should be betting about 40% pot here, keeping a tight control of the size of the pot, and would then be happy with a call and fold happily with any reasonable raise. If a brick comes OTR I can bet maybe 25% pot and am happy with a call or a raise. Fortunately the Qh improves his range and I can happily c/f. UTG makes it even easier by shoving. Though as played I would have to consider calling a small bet OTR hoping for AJ or worse.

Conclusions too nitty?

888 Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $0.81 (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 15.22, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 50)
Hero (SB): $2.61
BB: $3.76 (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 28)
UTG: $1.86 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: $1.19
CO: $2.00 (VPIP: 15.71, PFR: 15.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 72)

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A K

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, UTG calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.22, 2 players) T A T
Hero bets $0.16, UTG calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.54, 2 players) 9
Hero bets $0.48, UTG calls $0.48

River: ($1.50, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.12, fold,

[Keith]

No HUDs. Read Villian as a SLP at best after they limp and call + stack size.

Whats an SLP stand for ?

When Villain calls my bet OTT I suddenly realise that I got that all wrong and I'm not happy with UTG calling at all here at all. There are plenty of hands in his range that beat me Tx KQ but there are also hands in his range that I beat AQ AJ maybe a few other Ax hands.

whooooaaa. Some fundamental errors in what you just wrote.KQ does not beat you , and you do not beat AQ as he has a better two pair than you. He is also likely limping all his Ax hands .

I've effectively turned my hand into a bluff. I should be betting about 40% pot here, keeping a tight control of the size of the pot, and would then be happy with a call and fold happily with any reasonable raise. If a brick comes OTR I can bet maybe 25% pot and am happy with a call or a raise. Fortunately the Qh improves his range and I can happily c/f. UTG makes it even easier by shoving. Though as played I would have to consider calling a small bet OTR hoping for AJ or worse.

meh , i bet about .40 on turn for value and bet river again for about .70. If he shoves over with the dead money in the pot and a hell of a lot of Ax in his range that we beat i'm snap calling

[DJAbacus]

SLP means Semi Loose Passive....which I would interpret as a Calling Station with a fold button so you can cbet these guys with air on a dry board.

So we're going to value town...

EDIT:

On further investigation this Villain has Stats of 17/0 which means he raises any PP and two Broadways which puts us miles behind OTR. I also forgot to mention V was snap calling which made me 'feel' V had a strong hand. I'm putting V on JT+ OTR so a smaller bet OTT and c/f OTR. A big 50/3 fish would have all the Axs as you say is their range so we go all the way to valuetown vs them, unless they shove raise OTT.

[Keith]

17 % is the % of the time he voluntarily puts money in the pot preflop by calling or raising.
0% is the % of the time that he puts money in the pot by raising preflop. There is no way on earth that you can infer that his raising range preflop is any PP or two broadways.

secondly there are sample size issues here . 12 hands is going to give highly inaccurate stats so you can't decide an accurate range based upon them.If anything these initial stats are hinting at tight passive not semi loose.

thirdly , these are snap hands so no hud so with only 12 hands it is highly unlikely that you would have a calling station /semi loose read on him at the table in real time.You have seen him limp or call 2 of the 12 hands he has played including this one. so you definately can't infer that he is a loose player.

[DJAbacus]

17 % is the % of the time he voluntarily puts money in the pot preflop by calling or raising.
0% is the % of the time that he puts money in the pot by raising preflop. There is no way on earth that you can infer that his raising range preflop is any PP or two broadways.

secondly there are sample size issues here . 12 hands is going to give highly inaccurate stats so you can't decide an accurate range based upon them.If anything these initial stats are hinting at tight passive not semi loose.

thirdly , these are snap hands so no hud so with only 12 hands it is highly unlikely that you would have a calling station /semi loose read on him at the table in real time.You have seen him limp or call 2 of the 12 hands he has played including this one. so you definately can't infer that he is a loose player.

I meant his range, calling the PF range was 17%, sorry.

Still not happy about piling it all in OTT and OTR though regardless of sample size.

[Keith]

im happy stacking off in this case , he has so many Ax combos we beat and KQ QJ combos underpairs etc but you have to accept that you aren't winning 100% of the time .Some of the time he will have AQ,Tx and KJ

[DJAbacus]

im happy stacking off in this case , he has so many Ax combos we beat and KQ QJ combos underpairs etc but you have to accept that you aren't winning 100% of the time .Some of the time he will have AQ,Tx and KJ

Thanks for persevering with me Keith. I'm aware that a leak of mine atm is I'm too passive in these spots and will need to be more aggressive at a higher stake. The reason is that I'm trying to keep my discipline and not just end up in a pot OTR vs some calling station with a middle pair. This means I'm going too far in the opposite direction. TPTK on most board, especially AK on a Axxxx vs a fish at 2nl has got to be the nuts in most cases as they do love a Ax hand. As confidence grows and I see more and more fish showing up with total junk OTR I think I will be able to get more value in these spots. Much obliged for your comments as always.

[griffey24]

I like how you played it if you c/c the river.

He has enough nonsense like QJ, combo draws on turn, spades to get to the river with air. he might even bet Ax on river sometimes.

Turn sizing seems a bit big to me.