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    Default Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Here's the story. I wouldn't normally call a $6 pre-flop bet with pocket 88, but certain conditions made me give it a shot in this instance. This was still somewhat risky, and yes, I got very lucky.

    I was having a very good night. This table had quite a few loose, aggressive players. Many of them (including Player4 here) were betting way too much pre-flop with mediocre pairs. Not only that, a few of them would call big pre-flop bets with weak pocket cards, so the pot was almost certain to be substantial if anyone raised pre-flop.

    When I got this pocket 88, I already had a huge chip-stack with Player7 being the only one to watch out for. Player4 bet $6. I wasn't going to call it, but Player7 to my right called, thus doubling the pot when it came to me. I figured Player7 probably had me beat, but I decided to call the $6 for the $12.75 pot and hoped to flop a set.

    Lo and behold, I flopped a set!

    Take a gander at this with the Replayer. This is fun. And watch what happens on the River.


    0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Feb 07 06:03:54 EST 2004
    Table Card Room Table 1673 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $36.50)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $18.75)
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $17.75)
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.50)
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.60)
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $169.80)
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $14.80)
    Seat 9: Xianti ( $122.40)
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $32)
    Player2 posts small blind (0.25)
    Player3 posts big blind (0.50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Xianti [ 8h, 8s ]
    Player4 raises (6) to 6
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Player7 calls (6)
    Player8 folds.
    Xianti calls (6)
    Player10 folds.
    Player1 calls (6)
    Player2 folds.
    Player3 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 8c, 3s ]
    Player4 bets (11.75)
    Player4 calls all-In.
    Player7 calls (11.75)
    Xianti raises (25) to 25
    Player1 folds.
    Player7 calls (13.25)
    Creating Main Pot with $57 with Player4
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
    Player7 checks.
    Xianti bets (70)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $57 | Side Pot 1: $96.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Qc 8c 3s Td Qd ]
    Player1 balance $3.15, lost $6 (folded)
    Player2 balance $36.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
    Player3 balance $18.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
    Player4 balance $14.25, lost $17.75 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qc,Qd,Td ]
    Player5 balance $7.50, didn't bet (folded)
    Player6 balance $25.60, didn't bet (folded)
    Player7 balance $138.80, lost $31 (folded)
    Player8 balance $14.80, didn't bet (folded)
    Xianti balance $174.90, bet $101, collected $153.50, net +$52.50 [ 8h 8s ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qc,Qd,8h,8s,8c ]
    Player10 balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
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    Default Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Here's the story. I wouldn't normally call a $6 pre-flop bet with pocket 88, but certain conditions made me give it a shot in this instance. This was still somewhat risky, and yes, I got very lucky.

    I was having a very good night. This table had quite a few loose, aggressive players. Many of them (including Player4 here) were betting way too much pre-flop with mediocre pairs. Not only that, a few of them would call big pre-flop bets with weak pocket cards, so the pot was almost certain to be substantial if anyone raised pre-flop.

    When I got this pocket 88, I already had a huge chip-stack with Player7 being the only one to watch out for. Player4 bet $6. I wasn't going to call it, but Player7 to my right called, thus doubling the pot when it came to me. I figured Player7 probably had me beat, but I decided to call the $6 for the $12.75 pot and hoped to flop a set.

    Lo and behold, I flopped a set!

    Take a gander at this with the Replayer. This is fun. And watch what happens on the River.


    0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Feb 07 06:03:54 EST 2004
    Table Card Room Table 1673 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $36.50)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $18.75)
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $17.75)
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.50)
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.60)
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $169.80)
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $14.80)
    Seat 9: Xianti ( $122.40)
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $32)
    Player2 posts small blind (0.25)
    Player3 posts big blind (0.50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Xianti [ 8h, 8s ]
    Player4 raises (6) to 6
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Player7 calls (6)
    Player8 folds.
    Xianti calls (6)
    Player10 folds.
    Player1 calls (6)
    Player2 folds.
    Player3 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 8c, 3s ]
    Player4 bets (11.75)
    Player4 calls all-In.
    Player7 calls (11.75)
    Xianti raises (25) to 25
    Player1 folds.
    Player7 calls (13.25)
    Creating Main Pot with $57 with Player4
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
    Player7 checks.
    Xianti bets (70)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $57 | Side Pot 1: $96.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Qc 8c 3s Td Qd ]
    Player1 balance $3.15, lost $6 (folded)
    Player2 balance $36.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
    Player3 balance $18.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
    Player4 balance $14.25, lost $17.75 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qc,Qd,Td ]
    Player5 balance $7.50, didn't bet (folded)
    Player6 balance $25.60, didn't bet (folded)
    Player7 balance $138.80, lost $31 (folded)
    Player8 balance $14.80, didn't bet (folded)
    Xianti balance $174.90, bet $101, collected $153.50, net +$52.50 [ 8h 8s ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qc,Qd,8h,8s,8c ]
    Player10 balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
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    Default Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Here's the story. I wouldn't normally call a $6 pre-flop bet with pocket 88, but certain conditions made me give it a shot in this instance. This was still somewhat risky, and yes, I got very lucky.

    I was having a very good night. This table had quite a few loose, aggressive players. Many of them (including Player4 here) were betting way too much pre-flop with mediocre pairs. Not only that, a few of them would call big pre-flop bets with weak pocket cards, so the pot was almost certain to be substantial if anyone raised pre-flop.

    When I got this pocket 88, I already had a huge chip-stack with Player7 being the only one to watch out for. Player4 bet $6. I wasn't going to call it, but Player7 to my right called, thus doubling the pot when it came to me. I figured Player7 probably had me beat, but I decided to call the $6 for the $12.75 pot and hoped to flop a set.

    Lo and behold, I flopped a set!

    Take a gander at this with the Replayer. This is fun. And watch what happens on the River.


    0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Feb 07 06:03:54 EST 2004
    Table Card Room Table 1673 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $36.50)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $18.75)
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $17.75)
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.50)
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.60)
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $169.80)
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $14.80)
    Seat 9: Xianti ( $122.40)
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $32)
    Player2 posts small blind (0.25)
    Player3 posts big blind (0.50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Xianti [ 8h, 8s ]
    Player4 raises (6) to 6
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Player7 calls (6)
    Player8 folds.
    Xianti calls (6)
    Player10 folds.
    Player1 calls (6)
    Player2 folds.
    Player3 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 8c, 3s ]
    Player4 bets (11.75)
    Player4 calls all-In.
    Player7 calls (11.75)
    Xianti raises (25) to 25
    Player1 folds.
    Player7 calls (13.25)
    Creating Main Pot with $57 with Player4
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
    Player7 checks.
    Xianti bets (70)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $57 | Side Pot 1: $96.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Qc 8c 3s Td Qd ]
    Player1 balance $3.15, lost $6 (folded)
    Player2 balance $36.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
    Player3 balance $18.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
    Player4 balance $14.25, lost $17.75 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qc,Qd,Td ]
    Player5 balance $7.50, didn't bet (folded)
    Player6 balance $25.60, didn't bet (folded)
    Player7 balance $138.80, lost $31 (folded)
    Player8 balance $14.80, didn't bet (folded)
    Xianti balance $174.90, bet $101, collected $153.50, net +$52.50 [ 8h 8s ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qc,Qd,8h,8s,8c ]
    Player10 balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
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    Default Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Here's the story. I wouldn't normally call a $6 pre-flop bet with pocket 88, but certain conditions made me give it a shot in this instance. This was still somewhat risky, and yes, I got very lucky.

    I was having a very good night. This table had quite a few loose, aggressive players. Many of them (including Player4 here) were betting way too much pre-flop with mediocre pairs. Not only that, a few of them would call big pre-flop bets with weak pocket cards, so the pot was almost certain to be substantial if anyone raised pre-flop.

    When I got this pocket 88, I already had a huge chip-stack with Player7 being the only one to watch out for. Player4 bet $6. I wasn't going to call it, but Player7 to my right called, thus doubling the pot when it came to me. I figured Player7 probably had me beat, but I decided to call the $6 for the $12.75 pot and hoped to flop a set.

    Lo and behold, I flopped a set!

    Take a gander at this with the Replayer. This is fun. And watch what happens on the River.


    0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Feb 07 06:03:54 EST 2004
    Table Card Room Table 1673 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $36.50)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $18.75)
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $17.75)
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.50)
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.60)
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $169.80)
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $14.80)
    Seat 9: Xianti ( $122.40)
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $32)
    Player2 posts small blind (0.25)
    Player3 posts big blind (0.50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Xianti [ 8h, 8s ]
    Player4 raises (6) to 6
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Player7 calls (6)
    Player8 folds.
    Xianti calls (6)
    Player10 folds.
    Player1 calls (6)
    Player2 folds.
    Player3 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 8c, 3s ]
    Player4 bets (11.75)
    Player4 calls all-In.
    Player7 calls (11.75)
    Xianti raises (25) to 25
    Player1 folds.
    Player7 calls (13.25)
    Creating Main Pot with $57 with Player4
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
    Player7 checks.
    Xianti bets (70)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $57 | Side Pot 1: $96.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Qc 8c 3s Td Qd ]
    Player1 balance $3.15, lost $6 (folded)
    Player2 balance $36.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
    Player3 balance $18.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
    Player4 balance $14.25, lost $17.75 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qc,Qd,Td ]
    Player5 balance $7.50, didn't bet (folded)
    Player6 balance $25.60, didn't bet (folded)
    Player7 balance $138.80, lost $31 (folded)
    Player8 balance $14.80, didn't bet (folded)
    Xianti balance $174.90, bet $101, collected $153.50, net +$52.50 [ 8h 8s ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qc,Qd,8h,8s,8c ]
    Player10 balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
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    Default Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Here's the story. I wouldn't normally call a $6 pre-flop bet with pocket 88, but certain conditions made me give it a shot in this instance. This was still somewhat risky, and yes, I got very lucky.

    I was having a very good night. This table had quite a few loose, aggressive players. Many of them (including Player4 here) were betting way too much pre-flop with mediocre pairs. Not only that, a few of them would call big pre-flop bets with weak pocket cards, so the pot was almost certain to be substantial if anyone raised pre-flop.

    When I got this pocket 88, I already had a huge chip-stack with Player7 being the only one to watch out for. Player4 bet $6. I wasn't going to call it, but Player7 to my right called, thus doubling the pot when it came to me. I figured Player7 probably had me beat, but I decided to call the $6 for the $12.75 pot and hoped to flop a set.

    Lo and behold, I flopped a set!

    Take a gander at this with the Replayer. This is fun. And watch what happens on the River.


    0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Feb 07 06:03:54 EST 2004
    Table Card Room Table 1673 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $36.50)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $18.75)
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $17.75)
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.50)
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.60)
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $169.80)
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $14.80)
    Seat 9: Xianti ( $122.40)
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $32)
    Player2 posts small blind (0.25)
    Player3 posts big blind (0.50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Xianti [ 8h, 8s ]
    Player4 raises (6) to 6
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Player7 calls (6)
    Player8 folds.
    Xianti calls (6)
    Player10 folds.
    Player1 calls (6)
    Player2 folds.
    Player3 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 8c, 3s ]
    Player4 bets (11.75)
    Player4 calls all-In.
    Player7 calls (11.75)
    Xianti raises (25) to 25
    Player1 folds.
    Player7 calls (13.25)
    Creating Main Pot with $57 with Player4
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
    Player7 checks.
    Xianti bets (70)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $57 | Side Pot 1: $96.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Qc 8c 3s Td Qd ]
    Player1 balance $3.15, lost $6 (folded)
    Player2 balance $36.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
    Player3 balance $18.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
    Player4 balance $14.25, lost $17.75 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qc,Qd,Td ]
    Player5 balance $7.50, didn't bet (folded)
    Player6 balance $25.60, didn't bet (folded)
    Player7 balance $138.80, lost $31 (folded)
    Player8 balance $14.80, didn't bet (folded)
    Xianti balance $174.90, bet $101, collected $153.50, net +$52.50 [ 8h 8s ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qc,Qd,8h,8s,8c ]
    Player10 balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
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    Default Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Here's the story. I wouldn't normally call a $6 pre-flop bet with pocket 88, but certain conditions made me give it a shot in this instance. This was still somewhat risky, and yes, I got very lucky.

    I was having a very good night. This table had quite a few loose, aggressive players. Many of them (including Player4 here) were betting way too much pre-flop with mediocre pairs. Not only that, a few of them would call big pre-flop bets with weak pocket cards, so the pot was almost certain to be substantial if anyone raised pre-flop.

    When I got this pocket 88, I already had a huge chip-stack with Player7 being the only one to watch out for. Player4 bet $6. I wasn't going to call it, but Player7 to my right called, thus doubling the pot when it came to me. I figured Player7 probably had me beat, but I decided to call the $6 for the $12.75 pot and hoped to flop a set.

    Lo and behold, I flopped a set!

    Take a gander at this with the Replayer. This is fun. And watch what happens on the River.


    0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Sat Feb 07 06:03:54 EST 2004
    Table Card Room Table 1673 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.15)
    Seat 2: Player2 ( $36.50)
    Seat 3: Player3 ( $18.75)
    Seat 4: Player4 ( $17.75)
    Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.50)
    Seat 6: Player6 ( $25.60)
    Seat 7: Player7 ( $169.80)
    Seat 8: Player8 ( $14.80)
    Seat 9: Xianti ( $122.40)
    Seat 10: Player10 ( $32)
    Player2 posts small blind (0.25)
    Player3 posts big blind (0.50)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Xianti [ 8h, 8s ]
    Player4 raises (6) to 6
    Player5 folds.
    Player6 folds.
    Player7 calls (6)
    Player8 folds.
    Xianti calls (6)
    Player10 folds.
    Player1 calls (6)
    Player2 folds.
    Player3 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 8c, 3s ]
    Player4 bets (11.75)
    Player4 calls all-In.
    Player7 calls (11.75)
    Xianti raises (25) to 25
    Player1 folds.
    Player7 calls (13.25)
    Creating Main Pot with $57 with Player4
    ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
    Player7 checks.
    Xianti bets (70)
    Player7 folds.
    ** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
    ** Summary **
    Main Pot: $57 | Side Pot 1: $96.50 | Rake: $3
    Board: [ Qc 8c 3s Td Qd ]
    Player1 balance $3.15, lost $6 (folded)
    Player2 balance $36.25, lost $0.25 (folded)
    Player3 balance $18.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
    Player4 balance $14.25, lost $17.75 [ As Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- As,Ad,Qc,Qd,Td ]
    Player5 balance $7.50, didn't bet (folded)
    Player6 balance $25.60, didn't bet (folded)
    Player7 balance $138.80, lost $31 (folded)
    Player8 balance $14.80, didn't bet (folded)
    Xianti balance $174.90, bet $101, collected $153.50, net +$52.50 [ 8h 8s ] [ a full house, Eights full of queens -- Qc,Qd,8h,8s,8c ]
    Player10 balance $32, didn't bet (folded)
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    Default Re: Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Nice stack going into this one! Definatly got luckly on this hand.

    3rd one in with players to go, it's not a horrible call, however I would be concerned about a raise after you. Calling a pre-flop raise on mediocre pocket pairs can be profitable if you still have enough chips on both stacks to get a set to payoff. It also helps to have multiple callers and a strong tolerance for pain...

    Would be a stronger call if you were calling less money relative to chips out there (think $4) and/or had more callers in front with fewer players to go from behind.

    Why the $70 bet on the turn? Sounds like a pretty outragous price to cover the risk of him outdrawing you.
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    Default Re: Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Nice stack going into this one! Definatly got luckly on this hand.

    3rd one in with players to go, it's not a horrible call, however I would be concerned about a raise after you. Calling a pre-flop raise on mediocre pocket pairs can be profitable if you still have enough chips on both stacks to get a set to payoff. It also helps to have multiple callers and a strong tolerance for pain...

    Would be a stronger call if you were calling less money relative to chips out there (think $4) and/or had more callers in front with fewer players to go from behind.

    Why the $70 bet on the turn? Sounds like a pretty outragous price to cover the risk of him outdrawing you.
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    Default Re: Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Nice stack going into this one! Definatly got luckly on this hand.

    3rd one in with players to go, it's not a horrible call, however I would be concerned about a raise after you. Calling a pre-flop raise on mediocre pocket pairs can be profitable if you still have enough chips on both stacks to get a set to payoff. It also helps to have multiple callers and a strong tolerance for pain...

    Would be a stronger call if you were calling less money relative to chips out there (think $4) and/or had more callers in front with fewer players to go from behind.

    Why the $70 bet on the turn? Sounds like a pretty outragous price to cover the risk of him outdrawing you.
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    Default Re: Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Nice stack going into this one! Definatly got luckly on this hand.

    3rd one in with players to go, it's not a horrible call, however I would be concerned about a raise after you. Calling a pre-flop raise on mediocre pocket pairs can be profitable if you still have enough chips on both stacks to get a set to payoff. It also helps to have multiple callers and a strong tolerance for pain...

    Would be a stronger call if you were calling less money relative to chips out there (think $4) and/or had more callers in front with fewer players to go from behind.

    Why the $70 bet on the turn? Sounds like a pretty outragous price to cover the risk of him outdrawing you.
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    Default Re: Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Nice stack going into this one! Definatly got luckly on this hand.

    3rd one in with players to go, it's not a horrible call, however I would be concerned about a raise after you. Calling a pre-flop raise on mediocre pocket pairs can be profitable if you still have enough chips on both stacks to get a set to payoff. It also helps to have multiple callers and a strong tolerance for pain...

    Would be a stronger call if you were calling less money relative to chips out there (think $4) and/or had more callers in front with fewer players to go from behind.

    Why the $70 bet on the turn? Sounds like a pretty outragous price to cover the risk of him outdrawing you.
  12. #12

    Default Re: Pocket 88 destroys pocket AA

    Nice stack going into this one! Definatly got luckly on this hand.

    3rd one in with players to go, it's not a horrible call, however I would be concerned about a raise after you. Calling a pre-flop raise on mediocre pocket pairs can be profitable if you still have enough chips on both stacks to get a set to payoff. It also helps to have multiple callers and a strong tolerance for pain...

    Would be a stronger call if you were calling less money relative to chips out there (think $4) and/or had more callers in front with fewer players to go from behind.

    Why the $70 bet on the turn? Sounds like a pretty outragous price to cover the risk of him outdrawing you.

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