$50NL Hand - TPTK gets raised

[SmackinYaUp]

I almost folded as soon as he raised me to avoid a difficult situation, but I decided it was time to give my sack a squeeze and learn some poker. Been tryin to get away from callin so much lately.

I raised to see where he thought he was at, and he only called. I think the pot was too big to throw out a potsized bet - could have been a big waste. Maybe too much 6max...Then again my show of strength showed that I wanted him to fuck off. Im sure play like this is gonna kill me in variance.

I figure him for KQ or possibly AQ.

What do you think I should have done differently on the turn?

Oh and pretend you cant see what happened preflop.

***** Hand History for Game 1705295280 *****
$50 PL Hold'em - Tuesday, March 08, 16:03:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 37030 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: heinzcatchup ( $57.12 )
Seat 4: CAYDEN2004 ( $97 )
Seat 5: vinehawk ( $140.68 )
Seat 6: Pancica ( $40.5 )
Seat 7: will_ ( $46.9 )
Seat 8: halesite ( $43.45 )
Seat 9: pokerchic05 ( $45 )
Seat 10: SlappYou ( $50 )
Seat 1: vanapagan ( $29 )
Seat 3: CutAzN13 ( $17.5 )
pokerchic05 posts small blind [$0.25].
SlappYou posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SlappYou [ Ac Qc ]
vanapagan calls [$0.5].
heinzcatchup calls [$0.5].
>You have options at Table 37053 Table!.
CutAzN13 calls [$0.5].
CAYDEN2004 calls [$0.5].
vinehawk folds.
will_ folds.
halesite folds.
pokerchic05 folds.
SlappYou checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Qs, Jh ]
>You have options at Table 37053 Table!.
SlappYou bets [$2.6].
vanapagan folds.
heinzcatchup raises [$5.2].
CutAzN13 folds.
>You have options at Table 37053 Table!.
CAYDEN2004 folds.
SlappYou raises [$5.2].
heinzcatchup calls [$2.6].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
SlappYou bets [$17.45].
Pancica has left the table.
heinzcatchup folds.
SlappYou does not show cards.
SlappYou wins $34.9
>You have options at Table 37053 Table!.

[Bmxicle]

I was going to give advice until i realized it was pot limit haha.

I generally lay this down, or call and check the turn except when i'm up against a maniac.

Given the right player i'll push with top pair top kicker, but i won't call many raises unless they are a maniac.

[Corey]

Didnt raise preflop?

wanted to keep ppl in the pot or something?

[SmackinYaUp]

I have no reasons for the preflop play, it was an error...I should have deleted that part of the hand history because now thats all that people are gonna focus on.

Then again maybe thats all that is possible to focus on because there was no preflop raise and therefore no assurances that I have not already chased out all the small freak cards that coulda had me.

How should I have done the turn?
Ive got one vote for fold.

[TheDoc]

Smack every part of a hand is important, you can't just leave things like that out. It's puzzle and you need every piece (sp?) to see the whole picture for what it is. I mean the only thing id be worried about there is a set or maybe qj in an unraised pot. If he had AA KK QQ JJ AK AJ AQ KQ he will probably raise in a limped pot from mid position, any sensible player wouldnt limp J3 or Q3. If up him on maybe j10, q10 or a straight draw trying for a free card. Although I don't think j10 or q10 would be more apt to stick around on the turn there.

[SmackinYaUp]

Yea you are right, my check preflop made it pretty hard to guess at his holdings.

[Bmxicle]

I never play pot limit, but i would think in pot limit it would be even more important to raise pre-flop with good hands, as it will give you more room to bet and apply pressure on people. I'm actually just curious if that is the right thing to do? Now technically the pot odds would always be the same but fish don't use pot odds.

[SmackinYaUp]

Yea fish are funny. Well Ive got about 30 more bucks to win before I hit my $1k mark and start cashin out a little bit. Its gonna be nice that these last couple months of constant poker and learning are going to pay off. It feels nice having started with $150. Glad as hell I found these forums.