having problems with ring games

[smcicr]

I've been playing for about 2/3 months now, mostly SNG's and MTT's (cheap or free rolls on Empire, also just set up with Party to play the steppers mainly). I've just bought poker tracker and am working through old hands. I'm finding i do ok with the SNG's (place and win enough to be ahead) but that i then lose any profit playing (or trying to play) ring games.

Just so I am actually on the right track, these two hands - 1 good decision and 1 awful decision right? (same end result) or should I have folded the kings? I can't see how that isn't a situation where if I don't lose it all I played it wrong?

Just looking for a bit of perspective from wiser heads at the moment. Ta.

Hand 1

(vilmach and fossil41 were raising a lot pre flop. The fact that i played very few hands early on in the session meant that if I put in decent raises then they'd often fold there and then - hence the small inital raise - I felt pretty sure one of them would come back over the top.)

***** Hand History for Game 1997521433 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, May 04, 09:47:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 36638 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 4: js_19 ( $24.75 )
Seat 1: vilmach ( $41.55 )
Seat 3: fossil41 ( $93.86 )
vilmach posts small blind [$0.1].
fossil41 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to js_19 [ Kc Kd ]
js_19 raises [$0.5].
vilmach raises [$0.9].
fossil41 folds.
js_19 raises [$3.5].
vilmach calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 3d, 8d ]
vilmach is all-In.
js_19 is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
vilmach shows [ Td, Ad ] a flush, ace high.
js_19 doesn't show [ Kc, Kd ] a pair of kings.
vilmach wins $16.8 from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high.
vilmach wins $48.75 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.


(As extra info for this one, I felt that vilmach and fossil41 were bullying people off pots a lot of the time, I had been playing very tight and folding what I felt were 'potentially' good hands to big raises so I guess a lack of patience / discipline meant amateur hour kicked in.)

Hand 2

***** Hand History for Game 1997511570 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, May 04, 09:41:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 36638 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: js_19 ( $18.15 )
Seat 1: vilmach ( $39.35 )
Seat 3: fossil41 ( $75.11 )
Seat 5: O2bAD ( $24.97 )
js_19 posts small blind [$0.1].
O2bAD posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to js_19 [ 7d 8c ]
vilmach calls [$0.25].
fossil41 calls [$0.25].
js_19 calls [$0.15].
O2bAD checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Tc, 2h ]
js_19 bets [$1].
O2bAD folds.
vilmach folds.
fossil41 raises [$3].
js_19 calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
js_19 bets [$2].
fossil41 raises [$15].
js_19 is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
fossil41 shows [ 2s, 2c ] three of a kind, twos.
js_19 doesn't show [ 7d, 8c ] a pair of sevens.
fossil41 wins $0.1 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, twos.
fossil41 wins $35 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.

[ensign_lee]

Second hand you definitely chased without pot odds, but since you realized it, I don't see any point in lecturing in point. Don't do it agian! :P