Hand analysis...

[Sed]

PFRer was reasonably tight and definitely not a fish but other than that no real read.
I called the preflop raise after my limp since I was getting 5:1 on my money.
Led out on the flop thinking if the raiser had AK I could push him off.

PokerStars Game #1176621886: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/02/06 - 03:27:24 (ET)
Table 'Mnesthus' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: ansel5 ($13.25 in chips)
Seat 3: sed76 ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 4: DieselShroom ($13.80 in chips)
Seat 5: wolffee ($7.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Island Bird ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 7: crawdad369 ($7.85 in chips)
Seat 9: casinocasino ($4.80 in chips)
casinocasino: posts small blind $0.05
ansel5: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sed76 [Jd Ts]
sed76: calls $0.10
DieselShroom: raises $0.40 to $0.50
wolffee: calls $0.50
Island Bird: folds
crawdad369: calls $0.50
casinocasino: folds
ansel5: calls $0.40
sed76: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [5d Js 5c]
ansel5: checks
sed76: bets $2
ppppoker has returned
DieselShroom: raises $10.70 to $12.70
wolffee: folds
crawdad369: folds
ansel5: folds
slopface has returned
sed76: ....

Comments???

[magicmntn]

preflop raise is AJ at a minimum. He could also have QQ,KK,or AA. You are not invested enough in the pot to care. Lay it down and wait for a better spot

[Waggho]

Yeah, fold. A tight player preflop raises 5 bb's, then reraises a pot sized bet huge on the flop? Get out of there!

If you're not folding preflop (which in my opinion you should have, JTo is overrated) you are definitely folding that flop.

AA, KK, QQ, AJ, KJ, QJ....the possibilities are endless.

[ngericl]

I don't know if I would have called the pre-flop raise. Facing such a raise, then having to play the rest of the hand out of position would be tough, IMO.

[a500lbgorilla]

Is the villian capable of this bet without a pair?

-'rilla

[Sed]

Is the villian capable of this bet without a pair?

-'rilla

not that I had seen... which is why the re-raise smelled pretty fishy to me.

Reguarding the call preflop. you guys are right, my position sucked which I stupidly forgot to consider. I saw 3 calls before me, thought most of the As and Ks were out of play and if I hit the flop I might be ahead it the villan had AK or such...

- sed

[Sed]

OK, accept that I called the pre-flop raise... I don't think it was that bad of a call, I was getting 5:1 on my call and put the guy on high broadways where hitting a straight or two pr would be payed off big.

Was the lead out 80% pot sized bet a bad idea? I figured that i could try to take down the pot right then if the PFR was still drawing with overs.

- sed

[Yeldud]

PFRer was reasonably tight and definitely not a fish but other than that no real read.

Fold

[johnnyawe]

Thats a tough spot.. Really the only hands he could have that beat you are, AA, KK, and QQ, and QJ-AJ. I dunno, I think you have to lay it down.

Man, I don't know though. I have seen people do crazy things when the pot gets big. If you had AJ, i would say call. But with TJ I think you have to fold.

[Sed]

Thats a tough spot.. Really the only hands he could have that beat you are, AA, KK, and QQ, and QJ-AJ.

I pretty much dissallowed for QJ-AJ with a 5x raise since he was playing pretty tight.... I had him on AK or a high pocket pair. I threw the bet out to see if he had AK. The massive re-raise said that he wanted to end it now which led me to a high pocket pair but not rockets.

I folded after thinking this through taking up most of my time. He showed his Kings.

- sed

[johnnyawe]

Sweet.. Nice laydown.

[Waggho]

OK, accept that I called the pre-flop raise... I don't think it was that bad of a call, I was getting 5:1 on my call and put the guy on high broadways where hitting a straight or two pr would be payed off big.

Was the lead out 80% pot sized bet a bad idea? I figured that i could try to take down the pot right then if the PFR was still drawing with overs.

- sed

Say there is a 80 % chance for each of them to fold. That means ~40 % that everybody will fold, so that´s about the percentage you need. Pretty high.