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Too aggressive or too weak QQ with K on board?

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  1. #1

    Default Too aggressive or too weak QQ with K on board?

    Im thinking that I should have either folded and got out of this hand early or raised a lot harder to get this crap kicker fool outta my way. What should I have done different?

    ***** Hand History for Game 1598604477 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, February 16, 02:00:40 EDT 2005
    Table Radium (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 6: JimmyDouglas ( $143.9 )
    Seat 9: SmackinYaUp ( $38.3 )
    Seat 3: etunam ( $36.9 )
    Seat 10: toughtruck ( $27.25 )
    Seat 1: lookoutman ( $40.82 )
    Seat 2: dblh88 ( $26.15 )
    Seat 7: AllN5high ( $24.25 )
    Seat 5: deadmoney792 ( $24.75 )
    Seat 4: forxlove ( $21.5 )
    Seat 8: FrizzleFry ( $24.5 )
    deadmoney792 posts small blind [$0.25].
    JimmyDouglas posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ Qs Qc ]
    AllN5high calls [$0.5].
    FrizzleFry folds.
    SmackinYaUp raises [$1.5].
    toughtruck calls [$1.5].
    lookoutman folds.
    dblh88 calls [$1.5].
    etunam folds.
    forxlove folds.
    deadmoney792 folds.
    JimmyDouglas calls [$1].
    AllN5high calls [$1].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 4s, Ks ]
    JimmyDouglas checks.
    AllN5high checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$3].
    toughtruck folds.
    dblh88 calls [$3].
    JimmyDouglas folds.
    AllN5high folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
    SmackinYaUp bets [$4].
    dblh88 calls [$4].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
    SmackinYaUp bets [$5].
    dblh88 calls [$5].
    SmackinYaUp shows [ Qs, Qc ] a flush, king high.
    dblh88 doesn't show [ 2d, Kd ] three of a kind, kings.
    SmackinYaUp wins $30.2 from the main pot with a flush, king high.


    After the river brought another club I knew I had him beat - he had a king with medium kicker (so I thought)- definitely not the ace of clubs. With the king of clubs showing, i figured correctly that my flush was ahead. Why did he call? Maybe my hand was disguised considering I was betting from the beginning. Then again he did stay with K2 so who knows
  2. #2
    Come on! I need some help with this one, I find myself in situations similar to this almost 23 times per minute
  3. #3
    Pre-flop raise is a little weak given how many called. If you know the table is that loose you should raise more, 5xBB or so. My minimum raise on any table for a good hand is 3xBB. 2x is just begging for callers, particularly those who already have money in.

    Bet on the flop is much too weak... bet at least 2/3 of the pot there. If they hang on, roll over and die. With that many people playing though, I'd be tempted to just check/fold because someone has a king and they probably won't let go.

    I prefer my pre-flop raises to limit the pot to no more than three players, including myself. I find the right raise amount for the table that will do that. On the flop I bet at least 2/3 of the pot whether I hit or not. Unless of course for some reason there's more than a couple people in the hand.
  4. #4
    Yea you make sense, I wasnt really paying attention to the table so when I raised and got 11 callers I was a little pissed. Good point though.

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