T9 in the BB

[VidaliaCID230]

Hand 701893919, Started at 3/4/2005 12:38 PM
Table 'Maroua': $0.25-$0.50 No Limit Texas Hold'em (Real Money)
Seat 2: jcobby1 ($23.35 in chips)
Seat 3: brabz ($15.30 in chips)
Seat 4: Murray_22 ($35.85 in chips)
Seat 5: Drop_A_Duece ($3.15 in chips)
Seat 6: crazyem02 ($3.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Groovejunkie ($40.15 in chips)
Seat 8: xTweek ($14.15 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 9: edloder ($21.45 in chips)
Seat 10: VidaliaCID ($27.80 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to VidaliaCID: 10s
Dealt to VidaliaCID: 9c
edloder : Post Blind ($0.10)
VidaliaCID : Post Blind ($0.25)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
jcobby1 : Call ($0.25)
brabz : Call ($0.25)
Murray_22 : Call ($0.25)
Drop_A_Duece : Fold
crazyem02 : Call ($0.25)
Groovejunkie : Call ($0.25)
xTweek : Fold
edloder : Call ($0.15)
VidaliaCID : Check
*** Flop *** : 9d 10d 2h
edloder : Check
VidaliaCID : Bet ($2.00)
jcobby1 : Fold
brabz : Call ($2.00)
Murray_22 : Fold
crazyem02 : Raise ($3.50)
crazyem02 : All In
Groovejunkie : Fold
edloder : Fold
VidaliaCID : Call ($1.50)
brabz : Call ($1.50)
*** Turn *** : [ 9d 10d 2h ] 6s
VidaliaCID : Bet ($3.00)
brabz : Fold



Does anyone see anything wrong with the way I played this....

[dalecooper]

nope.

[r8ed]

Good play. He probably had a flush draw that you scared him off with your good sized bet.

[UG]

nope.

Quoted for truth.

[VidaliaCID230]

WELL THIS IS HOW IT FINISHED!!

*** River *** : [ 9d 10d 2h 6s ] 2c
*** Showdown *** : [ 9d 10d 2h 6s 2c ]
crazyem02 : Show Cards [ Jc Jh ]
VidaliaCID : Show Cards [ 10s 9c ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $14.65 | Rake: $0.60
Board: [ 9d 10d 2h 6s 2c ]
jcobby1 lost $0.25
brabz lost $3.75
Murray_22 lost $0.25
Drop_A_Duece lost $0.00
crazyem02 bet $3.75, collected $11.65, net $7.90 Shows [ Jc Jh ] (two pairs, Jacks and twos.)
Groovejunkie lost $0.25
xTweek lost $0.00
edloder lost $0.25
VidaliaCID bet $6.75, collected $3.00, net $-3.75 Shows [ 10s 9c ] (two pairs, tens and nines.)

[r8ed]

I totally missed that that guy was in the hand and went all-in. I was focusing in the guy you folded. Either way, you played it fine. You were ahead when you made the call. He got sh*t lucky on the river.

[dalecooper]

You played it fine, it's just a bad beat. Move on.

[VidaliaCID230]

Well when he raised all in.. I figured he either had a pocket pairs... I thought atleast Q's but J's make sense... Or maybe a short stacker that hit top pair. I was upset for a min. But when I reviewed it I felt that I had played it correctly.

{Look at us using lower case - a500lbgorilla :P}

[whileone]

He got sh*t lucky on the river.

You can swear if you really have to (I won't tell rippy)

[FlyingSaucy]

Yea I think it was a good play. Although I am quite worried about crazyem holding pocket 2s here, it doesnt matter because you had good pot odds to call it in the event he was playing an over pair or just TPTK or something.

[copa]

He got lucky.

And he should have raised preflop.

You will burn people like him in the long run, especially if he lets everyone limp in.

Anyone know the percentage for 2pr hitting from anyones cards at the table?

I think its a pretty good percentage, but many people fold preflop so the percentage is diminished.

As others said, good play.

I like the bet on the flop, strong yet callable, and you had to call the all in as you were comitted.

The rest was history.

[Fnord]

If the flop raise re-opened the action (more than half of the bet, I think it does?) then you should have pushed. You don't need him hanging around cheap on a draw heavy board.

[lolzzz_321]

Why can't u people move all in!?!?!! On the flop after the guy raises AI all my chips are in center.

[JeffreyGB]

And he should have raised preflop.

Debatable. I used to think so too. Then I got a free lesson from some players on here that have netted over $10k this year. Started limping it and guess what: it went from a slight money loser to money winner for me.

You raise with JJ and you're either going to get lucky and take it down on the flop, or the people who called you with overs are going to hit and you just threw your raise away. Yes, it's good to thin the field. But I've switched camps and am now in the "I'd rather lose smaller pots while still having the potential to win bigger pots" camp.

- Jeffrey

[copa]

You definately have a point with not raising with jacks preflop, but the thing that makes my decision more simple is that i can usually put people on cards if I raise.

Ex: If I raise preflop, and 2 overs come huge bets, I can safely fold and my only loss is the raise. 4-5BB or so.

If I dont raise, there are many limpers and say the flop comes 568. What would you do. I can see the potential to take down a big pot with someone holding the likes of ace 8, but there is a great potential for straights/draws, flushes/draws and 2pair off the flop. Therefore, even if I have an overpair, I have found that I will lose sometimes for a great deal of money.

It seems raising keeps my variance down while not raising makes me have huge swings in variance.

However, probably the best solution is mixing things up with a bit of both, to keep people guessing. If you only raise with premium pocket pairs or group 1-3 hands then people will put you on those cards.