KQo early in MTT

[JeffreyGB]

How would you have played this? Honestly, I was pretty sure he'd only call the bet to put him all-in on the river if he had the straight. I didn't want to be the one callling if that were the case though. I know that's bad thinking, but I'm not sure how I should think about it. I don't want to advertise weakness in these spots by checking, and I win some pots for doing so, but then I end up paying people off more when they slow play.

Should I have assumed he had me beat on the turn and check/folded when no help came on the river? Folded the turn? Played it just the way?

Hand #4836543-4 at Thu1020pmA-044 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Valentine61 is at seat 0 with 1425.
zim10 is at seat 1 with 1495.
Habboy is at seat 2 with 1485.
iwiniwiniwin is at seat 3 with 1350.
Alex3733 is at seat 4 with 1020.
Birds6M is at seat 5 with 1715.
JGB146 is at seat 6 with 3080.
talegria is at seat 7 with 520.
CARPE DIEM is at seat 8 with 2990.
Jcool77 is at seat 9 with 1415.
The button is at seat 3.

Alex3733 posts the small blind of 5.
Birds6M posts the big blind of 10.

Valentine61: -- --
zim10: -- --
Habboy: -- --
iwiniwiniwin: -- --
Alex3733: -- --
Birds6M: -- --
JGB146: Ks Qd
talegria: -- --
CARPE DIEM: -- --
Jcool77: -- --

Pre-flop:
JGB146 raises to 75. talegria folds. CARPE DIEM
folds. Jcool77 folds. Valentine61 folds. zim10
folds. Habboy folds. iwiniwiniwin calls. Alex3733
folds. Birds6M folds.

Flop (board: Tc 5h Js):
JGB146 bets 165. iwiniwiniwin calls.

Turn (board: Tc 5h Js Kc):
JGB146 bets 275. iwiniwiniwin raises to 550. JGB146
calls.

River (board: Tc 5h Js Kc 4d):
JGB146 to act.

[vqc]

I would have first and foremost limped or folded the KQo utg instead of raising.

After the flop good bet into the pot, on the turn i wouldve checked and hoped that he would give me a free card, with him maybe fearing that I raised UTG with an AQ and i was slowplaying my straight. Since he reraised, if I gave him credit as a good solid player, I would have folded.

[JeffreyGB]

I would have first and foremost limped or folded the KQo utg instead of raising.

After the flop good bet into the pot, on the turn i wouldve checked and hoped that he would give me a free card, with him maybe fearing that I raised UTG with an AQ and i was slowplaying my straight. Since he reraised, if I gave him credit as a good solid player, I would have folded.

Raised to limit the field...I grant that I was out of position, but I think this will help more in the long run than letting anyone see the flop. Am I wrong here?

You mention giving him credit and folding the turn if you thought he was a solid player. What hands would warrant this that a solid player would have at this point. Facing a preflop raise of nearly 4xBB and a pot-sized raise on the flop. JJ? TT? KK? AJ? I'm ahead of AJ and any of these hands would benefit from raising to drive out a straight draw (though I suppose the argument could be made that I'm unlikely to have that and raise the way I did...).

- Jeffrey

[a500lbgorilla]

Uh? fold KQo UTG?

Limp and make a hand and play from there.

Raising only allows better hands to call you.

And it's so early you don't even have to worry about things.

And the last thing you want is to get tangled up in a big hand with a mediocre hand like KQo without a read.

-'rilla

[vqc]

im pretty sure in HoH (i jsut lent my copy out today so I dont have it on me) Mr. Harrington says that you limp 50% and fold 50% of the time, and I think table considerations make a big difference in this case (if you can outplay the other players after the flop or not, I cannot).

Quick question, what happens early in a tournament (full table) when the blinds are still low, say 5/10, you are UTG with KQo and you limp for 10, no limpers after you, someone in position 5 reraises to 50 and everyone folds to you. You fold right?

What happens if there were 4 callers after the raise, and it was 40 to you to call. This early in the tournament would it be viable to call the raise with KQo even with the pot odds?

I think that Queens and higher, and AK would have reraised you. AQ, JJ and TT and maybe 99 would have called you.
Maybe he hit his set on the flop, slowplayed it, saw the K come out, became afraid of the straight and reraised you to see where he was in the hand? Or he was playing AQ called ur flop bet and hit his straight on the turn?

Just to let you know Im talking just htinking out loud and hoping that the real players will set me straight.

[Tenny]

The turn may have given him two pair. It's likely that he could have called your raise with KJ or K10. I would have limped UG with KQo, it's just not that great a hand.