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When only implied odds matter!

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  1. #1

    Default When only implied odds matter!

    Back playing some party after a long stint at the Prima network..

    Here's a hand where I call a clear raise believing that he has hit his flush willingly drawing to 4 outs. Its important to recognise when you have huge implied odds and when pot odds don't matter especially with the new bigger stacks compared to blinds. 8 to call for 130 pot, 9% to hit, 8/130 < 9%. In hindsight a poor call by him with the low flush and paired board.

    Agree with this play?

    #Game No : 1736250443
    ***** Hand History for Game 1736250443 *****
    $50 NL Hold'em - Monday, March 14, 19:23:13 EDT 2005
    Table Table 37053 (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 2: Johnny_Mikes ( $37.1 )
    Seat 3: sukadik_ ( $20.2 )
    Seat 5: ryanpatclark ( $46.83 )
    Seat 6: pokamastah1 ( $131.9 )
    Seat 8: JEEPWJ1 ( $23.75 )
    Seat 9: DeSever ( $66.4 )
    Seat 4: cmcgraw ( $39.5 )
    Seat 1: TaylorMade49 ( $16.1 )
    Seat 10: Hustler1023 ( $50 )
    TaylorMade49 posts small blind [$0.25].
    Johnny_Mikes posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to pokamastah1 [ Td Ah ]
    sukadik_ raises [$1].
    cmcgraw folds.
    ryanpatclark folds.
    pokamastah1 calls [$1].
    JEEPWJ1 folds.
    DeSever calls [$1].
    TaylorMade49 folds.
    >You have options at Table 36922 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 36930 Table!.
    Johnny_Mikes calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 7d, As ]
    Johnny_Mikes checks.
    sukadik_ checks.
    pokamastah1 bets [$3].
    DeSever calls [$3].
    Johnny_Mikes folds.
    sukadik_ folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
    >You have options at Table 37362 Table!.
    pokamastah1 bets [$4].
    DeSever raises [$12].
    pokamastah1 calls [$8].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
    pokamastah1 bets [$55].
    DeSever is all-In [$50.4]
    pokamastah1 shows [ Td, Ah ] a full house, Aces full of tens.
    DeSever doesn't show [ 7s, 8s ] a flush, ace high.
    pokamastah1 wins $4.6 from side pot #1 with a full house, Aces full of tens.
    pokamastah1 wins $132.05 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of tens.
    >You have options at Table 37362 Table!.
    Game #1736258069 starts.
  2. #2
    Another hand from last night on another table. Here I believe its not correct to push even when your opponent has (6)outs. I will take the risk of getting outdrawn for a high probability of taking his whole stack any day.

    There is a lot of advice going around here about pushing when you have the best of it, but sometimes you just got to deviate from these rules

    #Game No : 1736545287
    ***** Hand History for Game 1736545287 *****
    $50 NL Hold'em - Monday, March 14, 20:20:35 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36922 (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 2: smilja ( $128.96 )
    Seat 3: daaaaaaaaaa ( $43.5 )
    Seat 4: geauxhome ( $32.3 )
    Seat 5: bighead8050 ( $140.65 )
    Seat 6: pokamastah1 ( $122.1 )
    Seat 7: jasonengland ( $48 )
    Seat 8: casper44 ( $185.5 )
    Seat 10: lard67 ( $41.8 )
    Seat 9: SemiBlupp ( $50 )
    jasonengland posts small blind [$0.25].
    casper44 posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to pokamastah1 [ Qd Qh ]
    >You have options at Table 36930 Table!.
    lard67 raises [$1].
    smilja calls [$1].
    daaaaaaaaaa calls [$1].
    geauxhome folds.
    bighead8050 calls [$1].
    pokamastah1 raises [$3].
    >You have options at Table 37151 Table!.
    KinkyAsian has joined the table.
    jasonengland raises [$6.75].
    he was playing tight for a long time, seen him play AK passively earlier. Was actually thinking of folding here. Put him on KK or AA.
    casper44 folds.
    lard67 folds.
    smilja folds.
    >You have options at Table 36930 Table!.
    daaaaaaaaaa folds.
    bighead8050 folds.
    pokamastah1 calls [$4].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, Qs ]
    >You have options at Table 37151 Table!.
    jasonengland checks.
    pokamastah1 checks.
    this is a very tight player, I dont want him to think that I have AK or a set so I give him a free card with 6 outs convinced that I have the best hand
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
    jasonengland bets [$10].
    pokamastah1 calls [$10].
    I only call, hoping that he will push the river then putting him all in
    ** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
    jasonengland is all-In [$31]
    perfect conclusion
    KinkyAsian: nh
    pokamastah1 calls [$31].
    jasonengland shows [ As, Ah ] two pairs, aces and tens.
    pokamastah1 shows [ Qd, Qh ] a full house, Queens full of tens.
    pokamastah1 wins $97.5 from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of tens.
    Game #1736551079 starts.
  3. #3
    I agree with you here, for the most part. If you've got an aggressive player capable of making a move, sometimes it's entirely worth sacrificing pot odds on the turn for the big payoff after the river.

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