Calling AI with AKs

[SinkRox]

I read you hit 30% of the time with AKs.. so is it profitable to call if 3 people are AI before you, what about 2?

[Cocco_Bill]

I read you hit 30% of the time with AKs.. so is it profitable to call if 3 people are AI before you, what about 2?

thats some very poor reasoning..

[SinkRox]

thats why im asking for opinions and hopefully explanations.

[Cocco_Bill]

thats why im asking for opinions and hopefully explanations.

with those all ins in before you, would you not consider that at least one of them has KK or AA? Those are your so called outs and they are probably in someones hand

[Pingviini]

If you mean hitting A or K the percentage is 50. If you think that your opponents are crazy and going AI with lessor holdings like AQ or small(ish) pocket pairs then it is a reasonable call, BUT if they are solid players you can be pretty sure that you are up against KK or AA. Against KK you are about 34-66 or 1-2 underdog and against AA 12-82, almost 1-7 underdog.

[SinkRox]

yeh at the $5-10 SnGs at pacific its possible for them to have anything, I saw someone raise allin with JTo earlier - and the caller showed dueces (this was in level 1)

I know the situation (stakes, players images) make variable factors in your dicision, but was woundering when if ever its good +EV play.

and it’s a game where if you are willing to hang your balls out there against 3 all ins before you…A/K suited can quad you up and give you leverage to take it home in a big tourney

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...asc&highlight=

[Cocco_Bill]

maybe in a rebuy MTT gambling in such way could be considered, or late in tourny when blinds are high

[aokrongly]

In my opinion, against a single AI, it's a judgement call, based on how the betting went. But you have to take the betting into consideration as well. Against 3 AI's you have no chances, unless it's suited and you get a flush - which is long odds.

Here's my reasoning. At least one other person probably has AK, who knows maybe two. Someone has a pair for sure. I think you're looking at two pair and another AK. Let's say one is jacks and the other is queens, or tens. (these are the kinds of hands people call ai with IF you're not already beat by KK or AA).

So now what's left? Your chances of a straight are shot, you're missing 1/3rd of your outs to hit a pair if someone else is playing AK, and you're behind in the hand.

PLUS, in an SNG, 1st round 3 players AI - in about 6 seconds there will only be 8 players left and plenty of time to go. (If you fold. If you call then there will be 7 players left and you'll probably be riding the rail.)

AK is a quality raise hand if you're the first to enter the pot. It's a call if there's a raise in front of you, and it's a fold into a reraised pot unless you feel like gambling - which is what you're doing playing AK when the pot has been raised and reraised any significant amount. 3 AI bet's certainly qualifies as a raise and reraise situation.

This isn't an odd's call. It's a laydown on principle (unless you need the chips and have to gamble up)

Don't enter the fray at this point. There will be plenty of opportunities to take their chips if they're all playing this loose.

[Iconoclastic]

It really depends on the specific game conditions.