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  1. #1

    Default Stars 5+.5 QQ hand

    PokerStars Game #1550328457: Tournament #7154218, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/04/19 - 16:50:09 (ET)
    Table '7154218 1' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: hfollies (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: TheDeal63 (1050 in chips)
    Seat 3: ingrid60 (1470 in chips)
    Seat 4: DPrah (1410 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 5: DFDPhantom (2060 in chips)
    Seat 6: mikeycuff (1590 in chips)
    Seat 7: BabyChamp469 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: eloeff (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: eggomaniac (1420 in chips)
    DFDPhantom: posts small blind 10
    mikeycuff: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BabyChamp469 [Qc Qs]
    BabyChamp469: raises 100 to 120
    eloeff: folds
    eggomaniac: folds
    hfollies: folds
    TheDeal63: calls 120
    ingrid60: folds
    DPrah: folds
    DFDPhantom: folds
    mikeycuff: folds
    *** FLOP *** [3c Ad 8d]
    BabyChamp469: bets 155
    TheDeal63: calls 155
    *** TURN *** [3c Ad 8d] [Ts]
    BabyChamp469: bets 220
    TheDeal63: raises 220 to 440
    BabyChamp469: calls 220
    *** RIVER *** [3c Ad 8d Ts] [6c]
    BabyChamp469: checks
    TheDeal63: checks
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Highlite for results
    BabyChamp469: shows [Qc Qs] (a pair of Queens)
    TheDeal63: shows [Qd Ac] (a pair of Aces)
    TheDeal63 collected 1460 from pot

    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1460 | Rake 0
    Board [3c Ad 8d Ts 6c]
    Seat 1: hfollies folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: TheDeal63 showed [Qd Ac] and won (1460) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 3: ingrid60 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: DPrah (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: DFDPhantom (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: mikeycuff (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: BabyChamp469 showed [Qc Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 8: eloeff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: eggomaniac folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    BAH thoughts and criticisms.
    DONT GET MARRIED TO A PRETTY HAND!!!!! Especialy the bitches, damn those bitches.
  2. #2
    Im not sure what the best play is here, but he could have any raggy ace. I myself like to check the turn after theyve called that flop, and fold to any significant raise. If theyre possibly drawing to the board then it may be worth betting the turn.
  3. #3
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  4. #4
    You have to look at these hands in context. It's really going to help. Human nature, standard play, poker convention. What does he have, what do you have? Just blind, you don't know your cards or his. What would someone in your position raise with, what would someone in his position call with?

    What is someone going to call a big raise with? AK, you would reraise with a pocket pair. From his prespective what's someone going to make a big raise with?, big pocket pair AK, AQ. (maybe medium pocket pair or just a steal based on position) but you get the point.

    So you can pretty much know what's probably out there. If he had JJ, TT, QQ, KK, AA, he would have reraised you preflop, probably. But he didn't. So you have to figure AK - at least I would.

    The two cards I don't want to see are A or K. So, boom, an A comes out. OK, maybe HE thinks I have AK, so I throw out a bet. When he calls I have to put him on an A. At that point I'm done with this hand. Here's an insight - MOST of the time people have the obvious hand. Yea, you can get bluffed out from time to time. He had some concern about the Q kicker, I think. I don't think you could have taken it with another bet, however, unless you went All In and that would have been a pure bluff with only a partial chance of success. Plus you have to put him on AK!!! The fact that he had AQ is insignificant.
  5. #5
    DFDPhantom: posts small blind 10
    mikeycuff: posts big blind 20
    I'm done on the flop.
  6. #6
    Would you still make the flop continuation bet?
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by vqchuang
    Would you still make the flop continuation bet?
    Sometimes. Given the stakes I'm less inclined.

    Also consider that you're out of position, so taking this to showdown is going to be expensive. Also, a free river card would be nice (if a Queen hits you're playing for stacks)...
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by aokrongly
    The two cards I don't want to see are A or K
    There it is. Too many people in tourneys play Ax and even Kx
    I'll be a rootin' tootin' shootin' damn fool, protectin' my chips.

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