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  1. #1

    Default flawed logic, out thinking yourself

    $50 freezeout

    Should I fold this? Board is scary, I figure AA,KQ is out of the question. JJ could be possiblity, the more I think about it, it was a real bad play, AJ or AT probably wouldnt be calling 100 cold from a EP raise? My inital assessment at the table was two pair AJ/AT and thinking back, it was flawed logic. What would your read be? I should have just folded to the turn re-raise, what do you think?

    PokerStars Game #1606348392: Tournament #7276053, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/04/29 - 12:08:16 (ET)
    Table '7276053 12' Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: NEIGHBORMAN (970 in chips)
    Seat 2: Indian (1460 in chips)
    Seat 3: takeudown (1250 in chips)
    Seat 4: peteramone (1240 in chips)
    Seat 5: Chiproller (1840 in chips)
    Seat 6: ihategnome (1660 in chips)
    Seat 7: PHARLAP 2 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: MstrMnd (2020 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hamman (1560 in chips)
    Indian: posts small blind 10
    takeudown: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ihategnome [Ts Th]
    peteramone: folds
    Chiproller: folds
    ihategnome: raises 80 to 100
    PHARLAP 2: calls 100
    MstrMnd: folds
    Hamman: folds
    NEIGHBORMAN: calls 100
    Indian: calls 90
    takeudown: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Jh Ah Td]
    Indian: checks
    ihategnome: bets 210
    PHARLAP 2: calls 210
    NEIGHBORMAN: folds
    Indian: folds
    *** TURN *** [Jh Ah Td] [7d]
    ihategnome: bets 600
    PHARLAP 2: raises 590 to 1190 and is all-in
    ihategnome: calls 590
    Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
    <Bbickes> i still wanna know if the thing in your avatar is a real chick or not
    <Bbickes> or am i e-crushing a dude
  2. #2
    well, I think that this situation is all about your read on this particular player. If you believe he had 2 pair, it's probally worthy of a call, if you've ready him to be the tight guy who only plays the nuts, then you might have to lay it down. Looks like he might be semi bluffing the flush draw as well. In that situation from what I can see with no read would have to be to call considering the pot odds you are getting and with the hand you have made. This is just one of those times you call and say i've made worse calls :P
    back looking to make some moolah
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    it does look like he could have KQ, but i would pay it off. Half the time he has AJ AT A7 or JT but even if he does have KQ, you still have 10 outs to improve on the river. i've never played a $50 freeze, so I don't know how likely those hands are though.
  4. #4
    I would call this one, the pot is so huge already, and only a higher set or the straight has you beat.
    take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
  5. #5
    maybe two draws AK suited diamonds i could see a push

    but i would call. you would think in a 50 dollar freezeout someone would fold kq to a raise preflop.
    Hoe-g-muh-ca-ca
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    Gotta call
  7. #7
    Touchy but call yes. AJ would have been my assumption but from your post probably KQ...WTF was he thinking
    Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
  8. #8
    Even better, he had 98o.......
    Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
    <Bbickes> i still wanna know if the thing in your avatar is a real chick or not
    <Bbickes> or am i e-crushing a dude
  9. #9
    Really this was the last hand of a crummy week. But today I have won 3 $30 SnG's and 1 2 table $20 SnG, so I am back to feeling confident. Thanks all for tolerating me.
    Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
    <Bbickes> i still wanna know if the thing in your avatar is a real chick or not
    <Bbickes> or am i e-crushing a dude
  10. #10
    wow what a bastard

    i do that in live poker only when the stakes are low enough to handle a big loss (comparitively) but in a $50 freezeout, that is just ridiculous

    wait what ami i saying, i would only do it if it was s00ted and against a guy who hates when i play garbage....you know just to piss him off

    he cant even say, " it was s00ted"

    well congrats on ur wins
    Hoe-g-muh-ca-ca
  11. #11
    I didnt win, he hit the botton straight, but its all good...
    Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
    <Bbickes> i still wanna know if the thing in your avatar is a real chick or not
    <Bbickes> or am i e-crushing a dude
  12. #12
    Ill play this all day, the same way, you did fine.
    You-- yes, you-- you're a cunt.
  13. #13
    Lol i actually did put him on 89o before you said.

    Not cause of how he played it, but because I doubt you would have posted it on here had it been anything else =P

    Anyway, I would call that no doubt. Even when your behind most of the time you have a 10 out river.

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