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  1. #1

    Default Calling the All-In Steal

    I've been reading these forums for a while now and I'm really impressed by the quality and variety of the players here. Just wanted some input on this situation. Thanks in advance .

    PartyPoker, blinds go up every 10 hands, 11 dollar S&G.
    Top three get paid.

    Blinds are at 100/200
    6 players left
    I have 950 chips
    Chip Leader has 2000ish chips
    Table is moderate, not too tight, not too loose.
    My image is pretty tight, and I already called one person's obvious ALL IN blind steal attempt of only 250 additional chips (I had ATo).

    Player A is a player with a 33% "in the money" rate at SnGs and has been playing SUPER tight the entire game (6.7% of flops seen when not in the blind, 7.1% raised preflop). This information provided to me by pokerprophesy and pokeroffice, so they're accurate.

    Anyway, he's now down to about 500 chips, still hasn't made his move yet. From UTG, he goes all in preflop; everyone folds. About 5 hands later, he goes all in again preflop, this time one from the dealer; everyone folds.

    Next Turn:
    Player A now has a stack of about 900 chips, pushes all in AGAIN (position: one away from UTG and two away from dealer). I had AJ offsuit, sitting on BB, thinking this is another steal attempt, I call him. And behold, pocket JJs.

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    My question is, was that a smart call given the circumstances?
    Does All IN immediately after a previous ALL IN usually mean the guy is desperate for blinds (which were quite large) or that he actrually has something?
    Was there a tell in the above situation that I listed that I completely missed?
    Should you just avoid playing policeman while semi-shortstacked period?

    Note: I did need to double up sometime within the next 6ish hands or at least steal the blinds to stay in the game.

    This question is of particular concern to me, because I'm trying to improve my game (currently only placing in 29% of the SnGs I play). Due to the tightness of my game (wait for good hands, downplay them, trap people, steal blinds if blinds are worth it) about half the time in a SnG, I will be in a similar situation. What should I have done, what should I look for in the future to avoid bad calls like this? Was this even a bad call? (I think it was, but I'm not too sure).
  2. #2
    you kno what thats something i never thought of before. If someone steals twice in a row, the second time they might actulaly have something !!!!

    I was watching boost play a few days ago, and he said "no I wont steal twice in a row".
    But imagine, lets say he steals with 49s, and the next hand he picks up AQs, wat do u do? Raise right? But if you pick up shit, like 27o, your not going to steal again, becuase people ahve picked up that bead on u.

    Im not sure if 2 all ins in a row merits giving them a good hand the second time tho. I, on many an occasion have stolen twice in a row with crap. So i am sure it depends on your read of the player. If from experience you think this player is tight, but understands the concept of stealing, then it might be plausible to put him on a good hand the second time. But I wouldnt go around folding to 2 steals in a row all the time.

    Lots of rambling, but this is a good topic to think about.
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    i would rather be pushing with 56o then calling with AJ in this position.
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    Hmmm... good points. Thanks for the replies.

    So would it then be a good general rule to stay away from calling the second all in unless the player is a complete fish?

    Now that I think about it, after a steal, it would be pretty stupid to try to steal immediately again with 4 players who all outchip you acting after you.
  5. #5
    Not a terrible play, but this is one of those either it's a flip or you are way behind. If you feel like you will have a chance to steal yourself in the next orbit it's probably better to wait.

    I think you may out think yourself thinking too much about what a player did the hand before last. Just last night in Poker Super Stars David Grey picked up AA and AK two str8 hands. Now if he moves in 5 times in two orbits...

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