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  1. #1

    Default 2 steals reraised, what do you think?

    I went through the last blind level without a steal... this is what a tight image gets me. First hand I was kinda in pos, I hadnt been stealing at all, but I still shouldnt have done it, I was doing fine, and it coulda waited. but the second hand, I think I have no choice. AJos is not a great hand, however when I just got caught stealing, its folded to me and I have AJos, I have to fire again. If they push, they probably are doing it with something weaker, because I just got caught. What do you guys think?

    PokerStars Game #1618549939: Tournament #7276137, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/05/01 - 12:52:30 (ET)
    Table '7276137 45' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: CaribbeanKid (4459 in chips)
    Seat 2: boostNslide (5080 in chips)
    Seat 3: catjca (3335 in chips)
    Seat 4: ChkUrPokts (6095 in chips)
    Seat 5: Crys (9695 in chips)
    Seat 6: RJwainer (4585 in chips)
    Seat 7: 21paul21 (3990 in chips)
    Seat 8: Weibs (1990 in chips)
    CaribbeanKid: posts the ante 25
    boostNslide: posts the ante 25
    catjca: posts the ante 25
    ChkUrPokts: posts the ante 25
    Crys: posts the ante 25
    RJwainer: posts the ante 25
    21paul21: posts the ante 25
    Weibs: posts the ante 25
    Crys: posts small blind 200
    RJwainer: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to boostNslide [2c 9c]
    21paul21: folds
    Weibs: folds
    wazoos53 is connected
    CaribbeanKid: folds
    boostNslide: raises 800 to 1200
    catjca: folds
    ChkUrPokts: folds
    Crys: raises 7200 to 8400
    RJwainer: folds
    boostNslide: folds
    Crys collected 3000 from pot
    Crys: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3000 | Rake 0
    Seat 1: CaribbeanKid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: boostNslide folded before Flop
    Seat 3: catjca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ChkUrPokts (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Crys (small blind) collected (3000)
    Seat 6: RJwainer (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: 21paul21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Weibs folded before Flop (didn't bet)


    PokerStars Game #1618554129: Tournament #7276137, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/05/01 - 12:53:25 (ET)
    Table '7276137 45' Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: CaribbeanKid (4434 in chips)
    Seat 2: boostNslide (3855 in chips)
    Seat 3: catjca (3310 in chips)
    Seat 4: ChkUrPokts (6070 in chips)
    Seat 5: Crys (11470 in chips)
    Seat 6: RJwainer (4160 in chips)
    Seat 7: 21paul21 (3965 in chips)
    Seat 8: Weibs (1965 in chips)
    Seat 9: wazoos53 (1340 in chips)
    CaribbeanKid: posts the ante 25
    boostNslide: posts the ante 25
    catjca: posts the ante 25
    ChkUrPokts: posts the ante 25
    Crys: posts the ante 25
    RJwainer: posts the ante 25
    21paul21: posts the ante 25
    Weibs: posts the ante 25
    wazoos53: posts the ante 25
    RJwainer: posts small blind 200
    21paul21: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to boostNslide [Ad Js]
    Weibs: folds
    wazoos53: folds
    CaribbeanKid: folds
    boostNslide: raises 800 to 1200
    catjca: folds
    ChkUrPokts: folds
    Crys: raises 6000 to 7200
    RJwainer: folds
    21paul21: folds
    boostNslide: calls 2630 and is all-in
    ChkUrPokts said, "gamblas"
    *** FLOP *** [5c Th Ts]
    boostNslide said, ""
    *** TURN *** [5c Th Ts] [4s]
    *** RIVER *** [5c Th Ts 4s] [7c]
    boostNslide said, "gg"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    boostNslide: shows [Ad Js] (a pair of Tens)
    Crys: shows [As Kc] (a pair of Tens - King kicker)
    Crys collected 8485 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 8485 | Rake 0
    Board [5c Th Ts 4s 7c]
    Seat 1: CaribbeanKid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: boostNslide showed [Ad Js] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 3: catjca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ChkUrPokts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Crys (button) showed [As Kc] and won (8485) with a pair of Tens
    Seat 6: RJwainer (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: 21paul21 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Weibs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: wazoos53 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    gg
  2. #2
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    a middle position raise of 1/3 your stack Either push or fold that. Any raise and you are close to commited and likely dominated. Give yourself a chance to fold out better hands with aggression...

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    fold the first hand before raising, then you will have enough chips to fold the next hand when you are reraised without being crippled.
  4. #4
    In the first hand, middle position steal is very dangerous. There is still too
    many people after you.

    For the second hand, that's a tough situation. 1/3 of your stack already
    committed. With that much money committed, it's a borderline decision.
    All you could hope for is that he has middle pair.


    cup
  5. #5
    My thinking in this situation is, AJ is often gold after you jsut got caught stealing.. because the range of hands that will try to resteal or just call you grows greatly.
    You-- yes, you-- you're a cunt.
  6. #6
    But you did not get caught stealing, from the other players point of view!
    You did not show your cards, you folded the first hand.
    They assume you got a decent hand, but not a great hand to call the raise.

    Be careful to distinguish between what you think your table image is and
    what other think it is.


    cup
  7. #7
    if you raise in pos, someone reraises, you fold. you got caught stealing.
    You-- yes, you-- you're a cunt.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by boostNslide
    if you raise in pos, someone reraises, you fold. you got caught stealing.
    How do you figure, if I'm raising with 99 or aj here and someone pushes over the top I'll think about it but most of the time I'm folding. I dunno why you stole here, it was a bit silly you didn't have that great of position. As for the AJ, you need to be pushing or folding. I would personally look for a little bit better of a position before pushing, as you have enough chips to let the blinds pass, you are not in great need of a double up.
  9. #9
    I dont agree, he reraised you all in. You would have needed a great hand to call that and there are a lot of decent hands you can have to make that raise and fold to such a big reraise.

    If I saw that happen I would never assume you were caught stealing.
  10. #10
    I figured I got caught, and he thought i was a push over then... not an ego thing, just how it seemed to me.
    You-- yes, you-- you're a cunt.

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