KK, opinions on play?

[boost]

this is a series of hands in a mtt, all at the same table, all within about 30 minutes Id say. tell me what you guys think.



PokerStars Game #1629541747: Tournament #7524975, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/05/03 - 06:06:20 (ET)
Table '7524975 15' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: chops87 (12235 in chips)
Seat 2: falkenator (4325 in chips)
Seat 3: Webslinger2 (805 in chips)
Seat 4: Ceephats (3925 in chips)
Seat 5: mcscrooge54 (4900 in chips)
Seat 6: boostNslide (3790 in chips)
Seat 7: dtuff (2245 in chips)
Seat 8: HawnJack (715 in chips)
Seat 9: chesh tang (4562 in chips)
chops87: posts small blind 75
falkenator: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to boostNslide [Kh Ks]
Webslinger2: folds
Ceephats: folds
mcscrooge54: folds
boostNslide: raises 300 to 450
dtuff: folds
HawnJack: folds
chesh tang: folds
chops87 is disconnected
chops87 is connected
chops87: folds
falkenator: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [7c 5s Qh]
falkenator: checks
boostNslide: bets 400
falkenator: calls 400
*** TURN *** [7c 5s Qh] [Tc]
falkenator: checks
boostNslide: bets 2940 and is all-in
falkenator: folds
boostNslide collected 1775 from pot
boostNslide: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1775 | Rake 0
Board [7c 5s Qh Tc]
Seat 1: chops87 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: falkenator (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Webslinger2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ceephats folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mcscrooge54 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: boostNslide collected (1775)
Seat 7: dtuff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HawnJack folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chesh tang (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


tell me what you think, am I playing way to strong?

the pot was quite big on the turn, I didnt see any reason to let the hand go on? should I have got more chips outta this? I know I probably couldve with another 400 bet. Or if I felt like having some fun, check the turn, and rape him on the river?

[boost]

heres another... this one I felt fine with.. easily one of them has a K or J, so there is the straight draw, on top of that they could have the flush draw... I dont know, maybe Im playing scared?


PokerStars Game #1629555375: Tournament #7524975, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/05/03 - 06:18:30 (ET)
Table '7524975 15' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: chops87 (11260 in chips)
Seat 2: falkenator (6575 in chips)
Seat 4: tbones333 (7363 in chips)
Seat 5: mcscrooge54 (6100 in chips)
Seat 6: boostNslide (4415 in chips)
Seat 7: dtuff (3520 in chips)
Seat 8: phil steve (1635 in chips)
Seat 9: chesh tang (4937 in chips)
chesh tang: posts small blind 75
chops87: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to boostNslide [Qd As]
falkenator: folds
tbones333: calls 150
mcscrooge54: folds
boostNslide: raises 300 to 450
dtuff: folds
phil steve: folds
chesh tang: folds
chops87: calls 300
tbones333: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Ah Qh Ts]
chops87: checks
tbones333: checks
boostNslide: bets 3965 and is all-in
chops87: folds
tbones333: folds
boostNslide collected 1425 from pot
boostNslide: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1425 | Rake 0
Board [Ah Qh Ts]
Seat 1: chops87 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: falkenator folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tbones333 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: mcscrooge54 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: boostNslide collected (1425)
Seat 7: dtuff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: phil steve (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chesh tang (small blind) folded before Flop

[boost]

and another... this one I love, because I had done it twice before, and chances are someone hit an over pair, possibly even 2 pair, Im guaranteed 1 caller atleast, but I cant let anyone else in.. so I push.


PokerStars Game #1629561170: Tournament #7524975, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/05/03 - 06:23:45 (ET)
Table '7524975 15' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: chops87 (13235 in chips)
Seat 2: falkenator (6685 in chips)
Seat 4: tbones333 (7088 in chips)
Seat 5: mcscrooge54 (5875 in chips)
Seat 6: boostNslide (5140 in chips)
Seat 7: dtuff (3120 in chips)
Seat 8: graderone (1695 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 9: chesh tang (4662 in chips)
chesh tang: posts small blind 100
chops87: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to boostNslide [Jh Jc]
falkenator: folds
tbones333: folds
mcscrooge54: calls 200
boostNslide: raises 400 to 600
dtuff: calls 600
chesh tang: folds
chops87: calls 400
mcscrooge54: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Qd Js]
chops87: checks
boostNslide: bets 4540 and is all-in
dtuff: calls 2520 and is all-in
chops87: folds
*** TURN *** [Kd Qd Js] [7s]
Resta180 is connected
*** RIVER *** [Kd Qd Js 7s] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
boostNslide: shows [Jh Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
dtuff: shows [Ks Ad] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
boostNslide collected 7140 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7140 | Rake 0
Board [Kd Qd Js 7s 7c]
Seat 1: chops87 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: falkenator folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tbones333 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mcscrooge54 folded before Flop
Seat 6: boostNslide showed [Jh Jc] and won (7140) with a full house, Jacks full of Sevens
Seat 7: dtuff (button) showed [Ks Ad] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 9: chesh tang (small blind) folded before Flop

[vqc]

Hand 1 is fine, although him check calling on the flop, and then checking on the turn again, makes me wory a little bit, but thats probably cuz I overthink other peoples trickiness.

Either way pushing on the turn is a bad idea, in my opinion, why not 3/4 of the pot? Whose going to call your push, no one unless they know your beat.

[vqc]

Hand 2, Why not just bet the pot or a bit more than the pot on the flop, yes, its very coordinated and you dont want people to suck out on you, but doesnt pushing just get you very little when your ahead, and knocks you out when your very behind?

[black666]

I don't think you played scared. You have made a large bet to protect your hand. I don't like slowplaying top pair so an opponent can outdraw you with medium two pair. Or top 2 pair with a straight possibility and a flush draw on board...why not take it here?

But I think all-in is a bit to risky ... make a pot sized bet or a bet he would only call if he has the nuts. If he has, well you loose most of your chips, but you are at least still in the tournament.

[boost]

poker is an emotional roller coaster.. god I wish I could get off sometimes...

PokerStars Game #1629565948: Tournament #7524975, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/05/03 - 06:28:15 (ET)
Table '7524975 30' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: HitUR2outer (7159 in chips)
Seat 2: monkeydave (11877 in chips)
Seat 3: boostNslide (8960 in chips)
Seat 4: LoonySKL (1432 in chips)
Seat 5: monader (1975 in chips)
Seat 6: DJ KrisCut (4140 in chips)
Seat 7: pdxmike (1275 in chips)
Seat 8: Marinersheep (3580 in chips)
Seat 9: haspel (4280 in chips)
boostNslide: posts small blind 100
LoonySKL: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to boostNslide [9c Ah]
monader: folds
DJ KrisCut: folds
pdxmike: folds
Marinersheep: folds
haspel: calls 200
HitUR2outer: folds
monkeydave: calls 200
boostNslide: calls 100
LoonySKL: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 2c 9h]
boostNslide: bets 500
LoonySKL: folds
haspel: raises 1500 to 2000
monkeydave: folds
boostNslide: raises 6760 to 8760 and is all-in
haspel: calls 2080 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8c 2c 9h] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [8c 2c 9h Ad] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
boostNslide: shows [9c Ah] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
haspel: shows [Ks Kd] (three of a kind, Kings)
DJ KrisCut said, " wow"
haspel collected 8960 from pot
boostNslide said, "..."
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8960 | Rake 0
Board [8c 2c 9h Ad Kc]
Seat 1: HitUR2outer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: monkeydave (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: boostNslide (small blind) showed [9c Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 4: LoonySKL (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: monader folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DJ KrisCut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pdxmike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Marinersheep folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: haspel showed [Ks Kd] and won (8960) with three of a kind, Kings

[vqc]

Hand 3, flop of your life, and you capitalized on ur image. Really really goot.

[boost]

on the last hand .. thats at a new table, I have notes on this guy, says hes passive... which he obviously is.. limping kk, but.. I put him on an underpair and he thought I bet weak...

I really cant believe that river, I know I sucked him out, but jeezus, if I slow play kings, I get what I deserve, but when they do it..

[boost]

bleh, bubbled the ft, AK vs KK, oh well.

[drmcboy]

I'm OK with all the plays, you win 100 % of the hands you don't take to showdown. in all cases there were several different 'bad' cards that could come off, but you wouldn't know which ones hurt and which ones don't - example [7c 5s Qh] [Tc]
- if the club comes on the river do you fold to strenght, but maybe he was on the str8 draw instead... you forced them to make the choice instead of you.

[Corey]

I see that you might have played it scared if and only if you wanted to get no callers from this all in play.

KK board goes Q high, and you push? I would have put another bet out, to extract more chips then the river you push...

AQ same thing...

[boost]

sure I want calls, and I did it 3 times and the 3rd time I got called.

[iwa]

Boost, personally I didn't like the way you played any of these hands. You were betting the pot wayyyyy too hard for my taste. You make some super agressive plays.

#1 - After you bet the flop, what type of hands do you put him on? With this monsterous of a hand, you can extract chips from this opponent. Betting almost 75% more than the pot was quite a silly move here. You want to extract chips out of players when you have a hand like this. A $1500 bet is more than adequate, and I think he calls you with his top pair, etc if he has it.

#2 - Yes there are draws on this flop, do you need to bet over 2x the pot to extract win the pot, no. This is a silly hand not to value bet, there were only 2 other people in the pot. Again, extracting chips from opponents in dominating situations like this one is key. Also, if he has a hand here, you are losing your whole stack.

#3 - Again, you flopped a monster for your jj, VALUE BET THIS. You're lucky this idiot was valuing TPTK way too heavily. 3 handed, I value bet this hand every time, the art of extracting chips is skill, quit pushing your raise bar as far as it goes every hand.

#4 - I think seeing a flop with a9 was a decent choice in this position. A little unfortunate that someone limped with kk.... As for the flop play, come on boost. TPTK is not a miracle hand, this guy could of easily limped with anything that has you beat, he throws down a solid reraise. You need to not make an ego call here, and make a good lay down. I think you can find a better position than this to make some chips.

[SinkRox]

i think your allin on hand 2 is a 'losing bet' you will only get called by a better hand (flopped straight).... or maybe a flush draw if your lucky. I think a pot size bet is sufficient here

[boost]

yah.. I guess I took some peoples advice a bit far... I figured all the pots where big enough, and they needed to end there. The hand where I flopped TPTK with A9... that mightve been a bit dumb, I dont know. Iwa, typically Im all about traps, but on this tourney I was just getting pissed, and decide to end pots when they had enough chips to make me happy.

I really need to evaulate my game, I think Ive been slipping..