hand from final table of 3 table sng..

[ender555]

***** Hand History for Game 2095249032 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:12468012 Level:10 Blinds (300/600) - Monday, May 23, 21:18:03 EDT 2005
Table 3 - Table(345053) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: NevrBluffin ( $5965 )
Seat 2: Stunts25 ( $2459 )
Seat 3: ALLHEARTS1 ( $3690 )
Seat 4: ender555 ( $5540 )
Seat 5: CSXPVB ( $5085 )
Seat 6: MstgGT05 ( $3940 )
Seat 8: DarrenWirth ( $3321 )
Trny:12468012 Level:10
Blinds (300/600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ender555 [ 8d 8c ]
ALLHEARTS1 folds.
>You have options at Multi-Table(343021) Table #34 Table!.
ender555 raises [1800].
CSXPVB folds.
MstgGT05 folds.
DarrenWirth folds.
NevrBluffin folds.
Stunts25 is all-In [1859]
DarrenWirth: Just do it do do it
ender555 calls [659].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Qd, 6s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
ender555 shows [ 8d, 8c ] a pair of eights.
Stunts25 shows [ Ad, Td ] a pair of aces.
Stunts25 wins 5218 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.



My question is when blinds are this high, as a big stack what range of hands can you play, and what should your goal be? I seem to get cut up a lot as a stack, because it's very hard to steal as people go all in every single round.


How do you play these middle pockets this late? good/bad play. I wanted to take the blinds personally but it was only 600 to call.

[vqc]

I would push to steal.

[ZenOffsuit]

I think you did everything right. Even if you pushed this guy probably would have called anyways, hell he thought A/T s was good enough to go all in with.

[SnoT_III]

I like that play a lot, you didn't risk too much of your stack and it was a perfect bet for blind steal, and hey, you have a pretty good hand even if you get called. You lost the race, but that's a risk you have to take.

I think I would call someones all in with pocket 8's only if I was the last to act. I'd hate to get a re-raise behind me with a hand like that. You worked hard for your stack just to risk it all pre-flop.

I like to execute the tight-aggresive play at this point in the game. If there is a raise at the table I will normally be folding or re-raising. Put pressure on people but make sure you fold when you know you are beat. If you take a few hits on your stack then I would slow it down a little.

[gabe]

I would push to steal.

amen brother

[homerdash]

Pushing to steal isn't gonna work I don't think, the BB has a decent hand for his stack size and 25% of his stack is already in the pot.

I liked the raise preflop until I noticed that you weren't really in position. 88 in EP making a raise of 1/3 your stack doesn't sound so great. What happens if one of the medium stacks yet to act pushes? I don't really want to call a large AI with only 88 in that situation.

Obviously you're not going to fold 88, so I'd call and play it from there. If everyone still folds and the BB goes all-in (which probably would be the case) then I would hesitate calling because I don't have much invested in the pot. It doesn't seem necessary at this point to race for a chunk of your stack.

[gabe]

pushing because you have a good hand and less than 10bb is good whether your intent is to steal or not.

[ender555]

Pushing to steal isn't gonna work I don't think, the BB has a decent hand for his stack size and 25% of his stack is already in the pot.

I liked the raise preflop until I noticed that you weren't really in position. 88 in EP making a raise of 1/3 your stack doesn't sound so great. What happens if one of the medium stacks yet to act pushes? I don't really want to call a large AI with only 88 in that situation.

Obviously you're not going to fold 88, so I'd call and play it from there. If everyone still folds and the BB goes all-in (which probably would be the case) then I would hesitate calling because I don't have much invested in the pot. It doesn't seem necessary at this point to race for a chunk of your stack.

yeah, there is definitely an argument for this play, however I think raising UTG should've scared off that A10. I guess I should've taken into account that lots of players online don't think about position but still. This would definitely be a safer play, but it's also kind of like playing it for a set. And I don't like that because a lot of times I will get re-raised out of the pot, and I won't hit my set. It's a pretty expensive price to pay just to actually showdown 10% of the time. I don't know i'd like to hear some more comments here.

VC and gabe, you think i should just go AI?

[gabe]

you have less than 10bb, so yes. you have most of the players covered, so your folding equity is that much higher, especially as close to the bubble as you are.

[vqc]

Also if youre going to steal from a stack that is smlaler than yours, and very possibly on the brink of going all in anyways, you need to be prepared to go all in yourself.

So essentially what you need to ask yourself is, If i raise this BB, what will he do? If he pushes am I ready to call his all in. If you are not ready to call his all in (him being the shortstack) then you might not want to waste your chips. The same logic goes, however, if your willing to go all in with him, then put him all in. Riase enough so that he will be going all in in order for him to call.

And like Gabe said, YOu have the field covered, your fold equity is huge. I wouldnt be suprirsed if somoene folded some hands that dominate you. And getting called by ATo should make you all jittery inside. Your going to win 55% of the time. Probably the best odds you willl be getting anytime soon on the bubble.