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  1. #1

    Default Was this the right play? (big pay-off)

    I've recently jumped from limit to NL to 6-max NL and have been profitable at each different game (although I find 6-max NL to be by far the most exciting, even though I've won nothing but the blinds with AA or KK many times because everyone else folded before I could even do anything).

    I had this hand last night, when I called markchow's all-in I had put him on a straight or flush while only having a flush draw myself (Ace high) - the pot odds didn't really justify me being in there but I was on a bit of a power trip (janchostar had gone all-in on my QQ the hand earlier and got knocked out with my full house - which I made on the flop) - will this kill me in the long-run? Sure it worked out great come the river - but that was dumb luck more than anything.


    ***** Hand History for Game 2122476195 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Sunday, May 29, 03:03:25 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36606 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 4
    Seat 6: wonderboy905 ( $56.94 )
    Seat 2: opetaylor ( $37.94 )
    Seat 3: markchow5 ( $6.8 )
    Seat 4: janchorstar ( $0 )
    wonderboy905 posts small blind [$0.1].
    opetaylor posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to wonderboy905 [ As Jd ]
    markchow5 calls [$0.25].
    wonderboy905 calls [$0.15].
    opetaylor raises [$0.25].
    markchow5 calls [$0.25].
    wonderboy905 calls [$0.25].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 6s, 5s ]
    wonderboy905 checks.
    opetaylor bets [$0.5].
    markchow5 calls [$0.5].
    wonderboy905 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
    wonderboy905 checks.
    opetaylor bets [$1].
    markchow5 is all-In [$5.8]
    wonderboy905 calls [$5.8].
    opetaylor calls [$4.8].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
    wonderboy905 bets [$5].
    opetaylor is all-In [$31.14]
    wonderboy905 calls [$26.14].
    wonderboy905 shows [ As, Jd ] a flush, ace high.
    opetaylor doesn't show [ 8c, Ks ] a flush, king high.
    markchow5 doesn't show [ 5c, 4s ] a flush, seven high.
    wonderboy905 wins $62.28 from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
    wonderboy905 wins $19.4 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
  2. #2
    Guest
    No, you are playing way WAY too passive here.

    1. Raise to about $2 preflop at least.
    2. Bet out around 2/3 pot on the flop, if not the whole pot.
    3. I may fold to turn to the bet and the raise. If not, you want to lead out for 2/3 pot again.
    4. River played itself.

    You can't play passive at those 6 max tables. They are crazily loose/passive so they'll call your raises down all day, you want to make them draw without odds when you make a hand all the time. Of course in this case you didn't actually make a hand until the river, but just giving you a tip.

    As Fnord says, drop the fucking hammer!
  3. #3
    Thanks for the advice, I'm trying to get the courage to start betting higher pre-flop, too often I just sit around waiting for the flop to make my hand before I get aggressive.

    My first hand of the day, a little better?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2123541898 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Sunday, May 29, 11:42:14 EDT 2005
    Table Table 37099 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 4: mike456111 ( $25.5 )
    Seat 5: GrandpaDaddy ( $14.85 )
    Seat 6: justdoit4 ( $20.35 )
    Seat 1: wonderboy905 ( $24.15 )
    Seat 3: notmuch00 ( $24.75 )
    notmuch00 posts small blind [$0.1].
    mike456111 posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to wonderboy905 [ As Ts ]
    GrandpaDaddy calls [$0.25].
    justdoit4 calls [$0.25].
    wonderboy905 raises [$1].
    notmuch00 folds.
    mike456111 folds.
    GrandpaDaddy calls [$0.75].
    justdoit4 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 5s, 2s ]
    GrandpaDaddy checks.
    wonderboy905 checks.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
    GrandpaDaddy bets [$4].
    wonderboy905 calls [$4].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
    ziggy198 has joined the table.
    GrandpaDaddy is all-In [$9.85]
    wonderboy905 calls [$9.85].
    GrandpaDaddy shows [ 9c, Kh ] two pairs, kings and nines.
    wonderboy905 shows [ As, Ts ] a flush, ace high.
    wonderboy905 wins $28.8 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
  4. #4
    Guest
    Much better, nice flop
  5. #5
    better yet? (I had a d/c and came back and only put $15 back into this table)

    ***** Hand History for Game 2123609528 *****
    $25 NL Hold'em - Sunday, May 29, 12:05:30 EDT 2005
    Table Table 37099 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 4: mike456111 ( $24.9 )
    Seat 1: wonderboy905 ( $16.75 )
    Seat 3: notmuch00 ( $16.35 )
    Seat 2: bhuie ( $46.6 )
    Seat 6: jason_dean ( $32.85 )
    wonderboy905 posts small blind [$0.1].
    bhuie posts big blind [$0.25].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to wonderboy905 [ Ac Jh ]
    notmuch00 folds.
    mike456111 calls [$0.25].
    jason_dean folds.
    wonderboy905 raises [$0.9].
    bhuie calls [$0.75].
    mike456111 calls [$0.75].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, As, 9d ]
    wonderboy905 bets [$2].
    bhuie raises [$4].
    mike456111 folds.
    wonderboy905 calls [$2].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
    wonderboy905 bets [$7].
    bhuie calls [$7].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
    wonderboy905 is all-In [$4.75]
    bhuie folds.
    wonderboy905 shows [ Ac, Jh ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
    wonderboy905 wins $28.5 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks.
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    Calling a $7 raise on the turn and folding to that AI... um.... chase much? hehe good betting.

    -Chris
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    That is the beauty of poker, it doesnt matter how they play, you can always devise the perfect defense and counterpunch hard.
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    himself fucker.
    {Moved from HHH}

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  8. #8
    On that last hand, go ahead and re-raise the flop.

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