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  1. #1

    Default wrong to call all in here?

    Okay. This guy established himself as a maniac aggressor who blind steals. He was caught going all in with 10 J and 3 7. He was blind stealing when no one raised pre-flop before him. I didn't raise pre-flop because I was trying to trap him. I called his All-In thinking it was a routine blind steal, but I was the one who got trapped.

    PokerStars Game #1801131962: Tournament #8471079, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/05/30 - 22:20:55 (ET)
    Table '8471079 2' Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Lee959 (225 in chips)
    Seat 2: rollingwood (3980 in chips)
    Seat 3: jmlabrie18 (4410 in chips)
    Seat 4: ErickW23 (6505 in chips)
    Seat 5: LuLu00 (3210 in chips)
    Seat 6: srandal2 (1390 in chips)
    Seat 7: Kid Omaha (1350 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 8: daluchy (2105 in chips)
    Seat 9: mommer (1190 in chips)
    LuLu00: posts small blind 25
    srandal2: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to daluchy [Ac Jd]
    Kid Omaha: folds
    daluchy: calls 50
    mommer: folds
    Lee959: folds
    rollingwood: folds
    jmlabrie18: folds
    ErickW23: raises 6455 to 6505 and is all-in
    LuLu00: folds
    srandal2: folds
    daluchy: calls 2055 and is all-in
    *** FLOP *** [7h Kd 5s]
    *** TURN *** [7h Kd 5s] [Ts]
    *** RIVER *** [7h Kd 5s Ts] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    daluchy: shows [Ac Jd] (a pair of Aces)
    ErickW23: shows [Ad Qs] (a pair of Aces - Queen kicker)
    ErickW23 collected 4285 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4285 | Rake 0
    Board [7h Kd 5s Ts Ah]
    Seat 1: Lee959 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: rollingwood folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: jmlabrie18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ErickW23 (button) showed [Ad Qs] and won (4285) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 5: LuLu00 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: srandal2 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Kid Omaha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: daluchy showed [Ac Jd] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 9: mommer folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Was that the right move and I was just misfortunate or should I have folded regardless of the read I had on him?
  2. #2
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    Tough play... I dislike calling AI with AJ even against a bluffer, they catch hands too.

    I probably fold and wait until I trap him with QQ or AK...

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  3. #3
    Yeah tough call, even against a maniac AJ isnt that strong. If both his cards are live you are probably only ahead like 60-40 or so. If this guy really is a maniac, you can probably find a chance to trap him when you have him way behind or even drawing dead
  4. #4
    Easy fold. Hell I dont even bother limping in. Even to trap a maniac. Crappy hand.
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    blinds were still small... maniac at ur table has a stack...

    would have folded it.


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  6. #6
    Fair enough. I mean I usually know how to play with maniacs, but going AI with 3 7 told me this wasn't the smartest maniac-type player.

    I guess I was thinking in the short term of doubling up than the long term of maybe getting eliminated.

    Oh well, thanks for the advice.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by vqchuang
    Easy fold. Hell I dont even bother limping in. Even to trap a maniac. Crappy hand.
    Kidding right? AJ isn't too bad, especially from position.
    Not good enough to go AI on with 9 plrs, though.
  8. #8
    The limp was bad, AJ is not a limping hand, its a raise or fold. The call here is even worse.
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