MTT Final Table decision -

[TanO]

Its the final table of an 400+ entrant MTT.... 8 left and you're the short stack -

------HAND 251------
Game #722802363: Texas Hold'em No Limit (4000/8000) - 2005/06/02 - 23:08:33 (GMT)
Table "£15K_GTD 652174 - 1" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: AssamGoat (199284.30 in chips)
Seat 2: PHAR1 (60481 in chips)
Seat 3: Jontejont (93526.50 in chips)
Seat 4: ragnah (115317 in chips)
Seat 7: Gunner004 (40331.40 in chips)
Seat 8: Fonzareli (92484.40 in chips)
Seat 9: insideedg (49793.40 in chips)
Seat 10: TanO (28282 in chips)
insideedg: posts the ante 1000
TanO: posts the ante 1000
AssamGoat: posts the ante 1000
PHAR1: posts the ante 1000
Jontejont: posts the ante 1000
ragnah: posts the ante 1000
Gunner004: posts the ante 1000
Fonzareli: posts the ante 1000
insideedg: posts small blind 4000
TanO: posts big blind 8000
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to TanO [ ]
AssamGoat: calls 8000
PHAR1: folds
Jontejont: folds
ragnah: folds
Gunner004: calls 8000
Fonzareli: folds
insideedg: calls 4000
TanO: checks
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
insideedg: checks
TanO: checks
AssamGoat: bets 40000
Gunner004: is all-in 31331.40
insideedg: raises to 40793.40 and is all-in

The difference between 8th & 7th is £120, first place gets £3,488

What do you do ?

Result below :


TanO: is all-in 19282
AssamGoat: calls 793.40
----- TURN ----- [4d Td Kd][Ad]
----- RIVER ----- [4d Td Kd Ad][6c]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
insideedg: shows [Qd 8d] (A Flush, Ace high)
TanO: shows [9d 2d] (A Flush, Ace high)
AssamGoat: shows [5s Ks] (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Gunner004: shows [Kh Qs] (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
insideedg collected 18924 from Side pot #2
insideedg collected 36148.20 from Side pot #1
insideedg collected 117128 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 172200.20 Main pot 117128 Side pot #1 36148.20 | Side pot #2 18924 | Rake 0
Board [4d Td Kd Ad 6c]
Seat 1: AssamGoat lost
Seat 2: PHAR1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Jontejont folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ragnah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Fonzareli (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: insideedg (small blind) showed [Qd 8d] and won (172200.20) with A Flush, Ace high

[vqc]

I fold, thats 3 all ins before you (the first guy might as well be all in cuz theres no way hes NOT calling another 800 chips). Someone is getting knocked out. There is no way that theyw ill be splitting this pot. FOLD FOLD FOLD FOLD FOLD! If no one gets knocked out, someone will be ridiculosuly crippled. I think you make the most money by folding. I woudlnt be surprosed if someone had a pair and the A of diamonds.

[a500lbgorilla]

Easy fold. You've invested a whooping 8k into the pot, you're guarenteed a big up in money practically AND you're either beat or in serious danger of getting outdrawn (by a set, two pair or higher diamond).

-'rilla

[Wet_DreaMer]

Well Id call

[gabe]

Easy fold. You've invested a whooping 8k into the pot, you're guarenteed a big up in money practically AND you're either beat or in serious danger of getting outdrawn (by a set, two pair or higher diamond).

-'rilla

agreed.

[Estrop]

I'd call. Your maybe against 2 pair, your ahead in a good position. Someone could just as easily hit top pair, with a high diamond and your still ahead.

I call this because if you win it, you could easily be setting yourself up for the win. If you fold you may not get another chance to double up to set yourself up for the win and blind out, or be forced to push a not so good hand.

You have to ask yourself.. are you playing for ITM or for first?

[pokerfanatic]

I'd muck it, not that hard a decision really IMO...

[vqc]

I'd call. Your maybe against 2 pair, your ahead in a good position. Someone could just as easily hit top pair, with a high diamond and your still ahead.

I call this because if you win it, you could easily be setting yourself up for the win. If you fold you may not get another chance to double up to set yourself up for the win and blind out, or be forced to push a not so good hand.

You have to ask yourself.. are you playing for ITM or for first?

I think the real question is wat play if repeated time and time again would make you the most money. Not an isolated event where its go for broke. The way the stacks are, staying in and fighting to move up spots would probably make him most the money, not an all out attempt to continously double up. Look at the stacks. SO many people are lower than 10xBB. He can push steal his way to a stack. There are so mnay more options to do well at the final table in this stiation than just seeing this as a double up opportunity.

[sandstorm]

I'd call, but maybe that is just stupid?

[Estrop]

Vqchuang, but this is a great opertunity to double up and cruise to much further in the money, or even first. It will also be easier to steal from the smaller stacks as you have a stack that could take a hit.

[AHiltz]

Vqchuang, but this is a great opertunity to double up and cruise to much further in the money, or even first. It will also be easier to steal from the smaller stacks as you have a stack that could take a hit.

Wrong. Not double up, quadruple up. And for that very reason your small SOOTED cards are worth shit. Unless you hold the nuts, or can at least draw to the nuts, it would be a crazy call.

[stuck]

With three all-ins in front of you, i fold. With one, I call. Don't commit yourself to those odds, either your way ahead or way behind, but in this case probably very far behind. You don't have near the nutflush or a draw to it, and there's a potential for one or two people to go out on this hand - or at least come just an ante or two from going out - meaning your winnings increase by just folding. Have patience, wait for a better chance to increase your chipstack. It may not come, but you at least would have given yourself the opportunity.

With a K high or Q-high flush I call. Not a 9-high.

[gabe]

I agreed with folding, but no one came blame you for calling with a flopped flush.

[SteveO]

FOLDDDDDDDDDDDD!

Not even a difficult decision. I might have pushed AI immediately on the flop to take it down, but once you checked and the action EXPLODED behind you it is a very easy fold someone had a good flush that was probably better than 9 high.