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    Default Comments? Fishy play? Ballsy?

    No reads on table.... Had played with Aces before, knew he was LAggy.






    PokerStars Game #1849102157: Tournament #8718991, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/06/07 - 01:04:27 (ET)
    Table '8718991 1' Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: 12eeDe12 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Max Headroom (1280 in chips)
    Seat 3: docdoc52 (1800 in chips)
    Seat 4: f.krull (1480 in chips)
    Seat 5: Sykedupp (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: Sprouta (1380 in chips)
    Seat 7: AcesGambit (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: danno12 (1560 in chips)
    Seat 9: broberts (1500 in chips)
    f.krull: posts small blind 10
    Sykedupp: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Sykedupp [Td Th]
    Sprouta: calls 20
    AcesGambit: raises 80 to 100
    danno12: calls 100
    broberts: folds
    12eeDe12: folds
    Max Headroom: calls 100
    docdoc52: calls 100
    f.krull: folds
    Sykedupp: calls 80
    Sprouta: calls 80
    *** FLOP *** [7d 8h 9h]
    Sykedupp: bets 1400 and is all-in
    Sprouta: folds
    AcesGambit: calls 1400 and is all-in
    danno12: folds
    Max Headroom: folds
    docdoc52: folds
    *** TURN *** [7d 8h 9h] [Ac]
    danno12 said, "layed down jj"
    *** RIVER *** [7d 8h 9h Ac] [6d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Sykedupp: shows [Td Th] (a straight, Six to Ten)
    AcesGambit: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens)
    Sykedupp collected 3410 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3410 | Rake 0
    Board [7d 8h 9h Ac 6d]
    Seat 1: 12eeDe12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Max Headroom folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: docdoc52 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: f.krull (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Sykedupp (big blind) showed [Td Th] and won (3410) with a straight, Six to Ten
    Seat 6: Sprouta folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: AcesGambit showed [Qd Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 8: danno12 folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: broberts folded before Flop (didn't bet)


    Comments? Little too aggro?

    -Chris
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    That is the beauty of poker, it doesnt matter how they play, you can always devise the perfect defense and counterpunch hard.
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    Looks "enh" to me. Hard to get a caller that doesn't have you beat there. I admit you have a very strong draw, but I think a pot-sized bet would have been better. It keeps the pressure on the opponents w/o necessarily committing you.
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    I'll step up with some comments, I guess. I'm not a tourney guy at all, so feel free to point out how wrong I am if I am. Not knowing the stakes of the tourney hurts...helps to know if people are on average idiots ($5 SnG) or smarter ($100). It looks like this is very early in the tourney, seing as all the stacks are about the same and the blinds are still lvl 1.

    But seing as you have some form of read on Aces here, let's assume he's smart and that his pre-flop raise means he has a good hand (top groups - face cards, possibly paired/sooted)

    The raise gets 5 callers, which is mildly scary, esp if it's a low stakes tourney...anyone could have anything - except for Aces who we think has a hand.

    So, putting 1400 into a 600 pot as first to act with 5 to follow...risky. But, you do have any board pair beaten, and with two of the tens, it's unlikely someone's holding JT...and even if they have JQ, unlikely a ten will come up on the board to complete the larger straight. 56 is completely possible from some calling station, as would be any two pair, or even some trips. You're begging for a fishy player who looks to double up early to call you with one of those hands...but they don't. Aces does with a top shelf hand. So you gotta figure either he has overcards on your 10's or a higher PP. If it's overcards it's a foolish call, he hasn't got odds on that alone, not even considering if you have or complete a straight. Higher PP, as happened, he'll call hoping you haven't already made the straight.

    And you haven't, but you out-drew him anyways.

    Overall, I'd say it's a good aggressive play. You have a good chance of causing everyone to fold and taking down a pretty nice pot, and even if you are beaten, you probably have outs (JT still has you mostly beaten). If you like to start tourneys agressively, looks fine.
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    I don't like the all-in post flop. A solid bet would have either gotten a call and a maybe a re-raise. That would have given you more info on where you stand then pushing. You are only going to get called by an overpair, set or if lucky a fish chasing something.

    Worked out nicely but yes a bit to aggro early.
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  8. #8
    In my opinion its fine. THis is kind of like another hand that I just looked at in this forum. Theres a sizable pot right now and u wouldnt be sad to pick it up. But stuck is also right in saying that any callers will probably have u beat at the moment

    OESD 8 outs, 2 outs for trips + alittle folding equity.

    Come to think of it. I think i agree with stuck. pot sized bet might be better. You wont win this more htan 50% of hte time, so I guess its up to ur best decision on whether or not to GAMBOOL. At the same time, almost every card that comes out will be bad for you on the turn. So if you dont take it down now, you might be faced with some tough decisions.

    Im on the ropes. GABE! Where are you!
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    Thats why I posted it, wanted to get a good discussion going about aggro-ness and tight/conservative, it was a $10 sng, so pretty fishy players all around, By aces being LAggy I mean Maniac LAggy, not good aggro LAggy.

    I pushed mainly for the folding equity, I figured an overpair probably would be a little foolish to call, but one did, and I outdrew, that was my insurance plan. And if I was out early, no huge deal


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    Quote Originally Posted by soupie
    That is the beauty of poker, it doesnt matter how they play, you can always devise the perfect defense and counterpunch hard.
  10. #10
    i would be worried about the flush if you hit since its so low but the OESFD is major points. plus you have an overpair.

    id go for a check-push here to appear more legitimate since i dont really want to draw against an overpair (especially one that has a heart in it).

    considering the cards you 2 actually had, you were a favorite to win so good job.
  11. #11
    I'm not saying it was a bad play by any means. Just, being first to act it's a bit risky there. Check/push is also another viable option. If it were just Aces in the hand, I don't feel this is a bad play, but against many other people as well it loses value, I think.

    A pot (or perhaps slightly larger than pot) sized bet still has a fair amount of folding equity as well.
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