yeah, most problems come in when you play these for anything but the flush. However I'm only playing these in unraised pots, period. Even fold them to a min-raise. Therefore I'm assuming that most of the time I'm not up against a premium hand, so if I do hit top pair on the flop, I'm not afraid to bet once (a decent sized bet, so I know for sure if I'm up against something), and check/fold the turn/river if my flop bet is called. Damn i need to get PT, can't believe I've been playing this long without it. Limping QJs in LP? That's a raise for me baby! (JK, not all the time)