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[Aquinas]

3 handed 2 table $30 sit n go...blinds 200
Hero with 11621
BB 7007
ug 1372
Dealt hole cards: 77
ug folds
Hero raises to 600
BB reraises to 1000
Hero bets all in

Table is very fishy BB minraises all the time(but generally does not reraise) and just a few hands ago called my str8 all in with an underpair (33) vrs board of QT8. My image is very loose--they've seen me raise with 29o other junk. We are all in the money.

[Glival]

I think his raise would have been higher if he had a large pocket pair; so my guess is it's a coin flip (but you can judge that best). Against UG for all his chips, sure.. against BB with this stack, maybe I still would have pushed, but I would have to be pretty sure it was at least a coin flip.

[homerdash]

good example of the gap concept. raising with 77 as the big stack is great. when you get reraised, i'd just call there. you don't have a strong enough hand to rereraise, 88-AA has you whomped and AK-A8 is a coin flip. hell QJo is a coin flip. i don't see why you'd want to risk 60% of your chips when you can just beat up the short stack. yes, i'm playing to WIN too, but this doesn't seem like a great play to me. i'd see the flop and go from there.

[Glival]

newbie question: what's the gap concept?

[drmcboy]

Call is awful, if you don't hit a set or a 6 high flop you hate your hand.

In a vacuum I'd be OK with the AI, but with your loose image you have to think he's calling with A10, KQ type hands and I don't think you want a flip here, you have time to pick a better spot. Plus you said he hasn't re raised much, so an over pair is a real concern.

[Aquinas]

My line of thinking: If he had a semi big pair QQ JJ TT hed reraise big. I put him on Ax KK KQ-K9 QJ QT or a low pp. By pushing I usually force him to choose between a coinflip and a fold...And a fold here basically gaurentees 2nd place for him and gives him a good shot at first. He called with junk(probably low pp) and lost (he didn't show the hand but board had AK and he still lost). I don't think a fold is good. It's call or AI. He min raised, which gives me the odds to look for a set. But that might be the better choice since I'm fairly sure he'd have called a flop all in if I hit.

[drmcboy]

Pot is 2K and it's 400 more, I don't see how that gives you set odds, especially since you need it on the flop. The only reason I'd call here is if you didn't want to look weak for future raises, but you said you have a LAG image so I don't see that as a problem. Are you saying he would call an AI with a Q 7 2 flop if he has A high? If so he's so terrible that surely you can find a spot to take his chips where you're better than a flip. You're adding luck into the equation when you are the better player, no need.

PS what site are you on, UB and PS at least you can check hand history if the muck on river to see the hand.

[Aquinas]

Thanks for all the comments folks!
I think he might call a flop all in with any pair or 2 overcards or a flush draw. But you have to also keep in mind that if I win this coinflip I win the tourney. The ug stack is so small that I consider us headsup. Would you fold here if you were headsup? Add to the flip a 20% chance that he folds and those are great odds--especially with money allready in the pot. Still I agree that AI is high variance --I could see calling. There is no way I'm folding there. I play on pacific.

[drmcboy]

I hear you, I just think if the guy is that bad of a player you've got a much better chance of winning that 50 50, why do you want to reduce it to that?

If you're saying you are going to call on the flop and then move in regardless, you should just move in pre flop. If you're saying you're calling to see a flop, what flop would you move in on, what flop would you check fold? There just aren't that many good flops for 77.

[Aquinas]

I guess I'd probably trust my hand vrs 1 face card(unless it was an ace) and otherwise proceed with caution. He had a tendency to continuation minbet any hand and 3/4potbet his made hands. But I'm not reducing the tourney to a coinflip. I still would have had a good stack if he had won.

[ZenOffsuit]

My line of thinking: If he had a semi big pair QQ JJ TT hed reraise big. I put him on Ax KK KQ-K9 QJ QT or a low pp. By pushing I usually force him to choose between a coinflip and a fold...And a fold here basically gaurentees 2nd place for him and gives him a good shot at first. He called with junk(probably low pp) and lost (he didn't show the hand but board had AK and he still lost). I don't think a fold is good. It's call or AI. He min raised, which gives me the odds to look for a set. But that might be the better choice since I'm fairly sure he'd have called a flop all in if I hit.

To me, this raise is encouraging a call. If I had As or Ks I would want the initial raiser to come along or think I am weak and maybe re-reraise me. If he is a bad player w/ a mediocre hand then this is an idiotic bet. It is easy for you to call or come over the top of if you think you are ahead.

[mike4066]

I'd probably call and fold un-improved. Sure he might push you off your 77 but even the worst players catch AA. I'd make t

You have a big chip lead and a really short stack at the table. Don't gamble with the big stack in a marginal situation. You have MORE than enough chips to avoid this coinflip.

[vqc]

newbie question: what's the gap concept?

The gap concept: You need at least as good of a hand to call a raise from position X as you would need to have in order to raise from position X.

If UTG raises to 3xBB, you would in theory need a TT or better to just call.

If BUtton raises to 3xBB the range of hands you would need to at elast call would be much higher, becuase the Buttons range of opneing hands is much wider than UTGs.