Gutted...right move?

[stewartkev]

Right...I'm angry as I write this...horrific beat but would you put yourself in this position?

18 left in MTT on Pacific. Made my first FT last night and on course for a second as I have 17000 chips, 2nd overall with 500/1000 blinds and 5500 av. stack. 3rd has 10000 stack. Tournament leader is on my right with 18000 chips. We are in the blinds when this happens:

Folded around to us. He raises my BB to 2500 and I have TT. I call. Flop comes T 9 3 rainbow. He bets 5000 into me and, with my top set, I go over the top AI. He calls. He had pocket queens and caught his set on the river.

Right, I know this is the correct play and he had 15% chance to win on the flop. At this stage in the tournament, would you lay this down at any point? Pre-flop I was tempted as I read for 2 overcards and didn't want to tangle with another serious stack. Always the possibility he was stealing, but as we both weren't in need of chips I thought this was less likely. I just had a MAJOR rush of cards (knocked out 4 players in 5 big wins in a row - had 2000 chips one orbit before!) and was tempted to chill and tighten up for a while. I probably had a pretty loose image because of this, but my cards were AA, AJs, ATs, QQ and KTs. The temptation of dominating the whole tournament was too much though...result $4.44 return on my £3.60 instead of $50+ and two final table in a row.

Obviously post-flop there wasn't much of a decision...worst case he has OESD with JQ or set of 9s. Any higher pair is a major dog.

[Gareth]

I think you know yourself you did nothing wrong - You had a pair of tens called to hit a 10 on the flop which you do and the guy bets 5000.

You were unlucky - You put your chips in with the best hand and he hit 1 of his 2 outs.

I would play that situation everytime - the chance to take out (well nearly) the chip leader.

[stewartkev]

Yeah...in this state of mind I want others to agree though! Where in Scotland you from Gareth?

[Gareth]

Yeah its not the best feeling in the world when it happens.

You just can't let it affect your game - in your future decisions.

There is a huge variance in MTT and you will lose far more times than you will win.


I play STT as it is easier to make a steady amount of money - I do play the odd MTT as they are good fun but have only ever won once.


I'm from Falkirk - yourself?

[stewartkev]

I'm from Perth, although I lived in Alloa until 6 months ago.

Well...just got on with it. I've played two more MTTs today and have managed a 17th, which would have been better but for some poor decisions and a 4th. Both around 250 starters and that's now my first two final tables in the last two days. I'm also a SNG player but I fancy trying my hand at MTTs. Normally play $10-$20 SNGs but working up from the $2-$5 MTTs at the mo.

[Bad Beaten]

I'm from Perth, although I lived in Alloa until 6 months ago.

Well...just got on with it. I've played two more MTTs today and have managed a 17th, which would have been better but for some poor decisions and a 4th. Both around 250 starters and that's now my first two final tables in the last two days. I'm also a SNG player but I fancy trying my hand at MTTs. Normally play $10-$20 SNGs but working up from the $2-$5 MTTs at the mo.

Tell me about poor decisions: I was in last night's $10 quadruple shootout on PokerStars and had a commanding chiplead midway through the second round (Half of my table was eliminated)...I started to get arrogant and bullying no matter how bad my cards were, and by heads up, I ended up blowing my chiplead and then I get a run of unplayably bad cards (The kind of run were seeing a facecard with a bad kicker is orgasm-worthy.) that put me on tilt. I eventually push with K8 (By which point my opp has me covered 7 - 1) and get called by AT. An 8 comes on the flop, but my tournament ends when he rivers an ace.

[vqc]

Right...I'm angry as I write this...horrific beat but would you put yourself in this position?

18 left in MTT on Pacific. Made my first FT last night and on course for a second as I have 17000 chips, 2nd overall with 500/1000 blinds and 5500 av. stack. 3rd has 10000 stack. Tournament leader is on my right with 18000 chips. We are in the blinds when this happens:

Folded around to us. He raises my BB to 2500 and I have TT. I call. Flop comes T 9 3 rainbow. He bets 5000 into me and, with my top set, I go over the top AI. He calls. He had pocket queens and caught his set on the river.

Right, I know this is the correct play and he had 15% chance to win on the flop. At this stage in the tournament, would you lay this down at any point? Pre-flop I was tempted as I read for 2 overcards and didn't want to tangle with another serious stack. Always the possibility he was stealing, but as we both weren't in need of chips I thought this was less likely. I just had a MAJOR rush of cards (knocked out 4 players in 5 big wins in a row - had 2000 chips one orbit before!) and was tempted to chill and tighten up for a while. I probably had a pretty loose image because of this, but my cards were AA, AJs, ATs, QQ and KTs. The temptation of dominating the whole tournament was too much though...result $4.44 return on my £3.60 instead of $50+ and two final table in a row.

Obviously post-flop there wasn't much of a decision...worst case he has OESD with JQ or set of 9s. Any higher pair is a major dog.

Just imagine the other 90 some odd percent of the time, where you take his ENTIRE stack, and you just steam roll the competition for first. Yes you put ur self in a positing like that.

[drmcboy]

played it fine. It's one thing to say I won't tangle with other big stacks, but you don't want to be their b$tch either.