PP 5+1 KJ in the BB. Not my HH.

[vqc]

What do you do on the turn wiht so many players? With that many players the turn has to be bad for u?

***** Hand History for Game 2220023758 *****
NL Hold'em $5 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13168318 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Friday, June 17, 06:46:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 35033 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: popNchips ( $730 )
Seat 3: BANDBCOWART ( $270 )
Seat 4: Ennesser ( $455 )
Seat 5: DFMAC16 ( $1150 )
Seat 6: dguy22 ( $745 )
Seat 7: S_Hammer67 ( $1745 )
Seat 8: Marshall07 ( $745 )
Seat 9: batts777 ( $1410 )
Seat 10: nuggets17 ( $750 )
Trny:13168318 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Marshall07 folds.
batts777 calls [30].
nuggets17 calls [30].
popNchips folds.
BANDBCOWART folds.
Ennesser calls [30].
DFMAC16 folds.
dguy22 raises [75].
S_Hammer67 folds.
batts777 calls [60].
nuggets17 calls [60].
Ennesser calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Ks, 9d ]
dguy22 bets [155].
batts777 calls [155].
nuggets17 calls [155].
Ennesser calls [155].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
dguy22 is all-In [500]

[gabe]

who has KJ?

[drmcboy]

ick. Thanks for another reminder of why not to play kojak... you have to think two pair or set or AK/KQ re raises on the flop, I would agree you're probably beat here with three in drawing.

who has KJ?

[vqc]

rofl my bad
Dguy22 has KJo

I probably wouldn't raise this preflop in a PP $5 SnG, I generally play super tight early.

The flop play is fine by my standards.

The turn is pretty tight, but I think a push is ok here, if the J has made someone's straight, you'd be unlucky, but you'd still have 6 outs to your boat. If anyone has made a better hand by the turn, which I feel is unlikely, you have outs to still improve further.

[drmcboy]

So what hands do you put these guys on? It just seems like someone HAS to have the 10 8 or Q 10. Two with a K and one with... I dunno, A9? I'll admit I'm amazed at the bad plays I see posted here at the 5 level but still... if you aren't beat on the flop, it seems like the J must to it.

[gabe]

KJ is a preflop fold

KJ is a preflop fold

He was in the BB.

gg! :P

[gabe]

KJ is a preflop fold

He was in the BB.

gg! :P

and he raised....

gg

[vqc]

He still thinks it was a good play, I cant seem to explain it to him that it was horrible.

[drmcboy]

result??

[CrunchyNuts]

Isn't he in the SB, not BB?

I could understand this play better if it was from position. Raising preflop here I think only sets up two situations...a very lucky flop (two pair-trips) or a post-flop steal. Flop was okay, but not great, and with no information on the other hands, a bet here has got to be for a steal...is 40% of the pot a good steal bet? Either way, it didn't work.