good call?

[jdubs]

It ended up in a coinflip situation for most of my stack, but I had many outs here, and a chance to really build my stack going into the break of this MTT . Thoughts? I had no read on the guy, had just been moved......


Seat 1: A2J_B ($825 in chips)
Seat 2: shawnmr ($1,815 in chips)
Seat 3: foyb ($3,928 in chips)
Seat 4: getback ($9,155 in chips)
Seat 5: lettercarrie ($4,275 in chips)
Seat 6: jdubster [KD,QD] ($4,202 in chips)
Seat 7: vestor51 ($2,870 in chips)
Seat 8: Katana999 ($4,125 in chips)
Seat 9: wilson xxx ($1,865 in chips)
Seat 10: ShaniReefer ($1,040 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
shawnmr posts blind ($75), foyb posts blind ($150).

PRE-FLOP
getback folds, lettercarrie folds, jdubster bets $300, vestor51 calls $300, Katana999 folds, wilson xxx folds, ShaniReefer folds, A2J_B folds, shawnmr folds, foyb calls $150.

FLOP [board cards AD,2D,KH ]
foyb checks, jdubster bets $1,000, vestor51 bets $2,570 and is all-in, foyb folds, jdubster calls $1,570.

TURN [board cards AD,2D,KH,3H ]


RIVER [board cards AD,2D,KH,3H,5H ]


SHOWDOWN
vestor51 shows [ 10D,AS ]
jdubster shows [ KD,QD ]
vestor51 wins $6,115.



SUMMARY
Dealer: A2J_B
Pot: $6,115
A2J_B, loses $0
shawnmr, loses $75
foyb, loses $300
getback, loses $0
lettercarrie, loses $0
jdubster, loses $2,870
vestor51, bets $2,870, collects $6,115, net $3,245
Katana999, loses $0
wilson xxx, loses $0
ShaniReefer, loses $0

[Shark Bait]

I think your flop bet was a little too much. His all in didn't make it too much more to call, so I can understand why you called after you bet so much.

I wouldn't have put so many chips into mid pair. Bet like 300-450 and if he raises huge or goes all in, it's time to fold.

[vqc]

If the pot was bigger on the flop, you could have pushed the flop in an attempt to just pick it up.

You could also check raise him all in as a semibluff.

You have 9 Diamonds, 2 Kings, If he donest have AQ, 3 queens as outs. Thats 14 outs.

If you think its time for u to pick up the pot, or make a move, this is a fine time to do it. Your at a coinflip to win the hand and pick up quite a few chips.

[Shark Bait]

hmmmm...didn't notice the diamonds...I need pictures.

[drmcboy]

you just moved to the table and your play is a min raise with KQs? Barf.

I like VQ's CR idea. You know someone has an Ace, you could have repped a monster hand and maybe folded them out. No fold equity to your bet.

[jdubs]

you just moved to the table and your play is a min raise with KQs? Barf.

Being in the position I was, i didnt think the preflop raise was that bad, the flop came pretty good for me, though I knew he had the ace- out me in a position to double up and get a monster stack..I dont think my play was that bad!

[jdubs]

If the pot was bigger on the flop, you could have pushed the flop in an attempt to just pick it up.

You could also check raise him all in as a semibluff.

You have 9 Diamonds, 2 Kings, If he donest have AQ, 3 queens as outs. Thats 14 outs.

If you think its time for u to pick up the pot, or make a move, this is a fine time to do it. Your at a coinflip to win the hand and pick up quite a few chips.

Thanks vq,

he was probably ready to push or call AI with aces anyhow, and I DID feel it was a good time to make a move- just didnt work out, thats all , with the turn and river cards coming, I liked my chances.... plus it left me with 8x the BB even if I lost! thanks for your comments

[gabe]

You have 9 Diamonds, 2 Kings, If he donest have AQ, 3 queens as outs. Thats 14 outs.

runner runner straight counts as one!

You have 9 Diamonds, 2 Kings, If he donest have AQ, 3 queens as outs. Thats 14 outs.

runner runner straight counts as one!

0.5.

[vqc]

You have 9 Diamonds, 2 Kings, If he donest have AQ, 3 queens as outs. Thats 14 outs.

runner runner straight counts as one!

CRAP. Always forget the runner runners. make it 15.5?
Miller always counts the backdoor draws as 1.5.

I just learned this one from HoH2 this morning while taking a dump.
15.5x4-(15.5-8)
62-7.5 = ~54.5% to win the hand.

Anyone want to check that?

[drmcboy]

Being in the position I was, i didnt think the preflop raise was that bad

Don't take it personal, I hate the min raise always. Still if raising KQ I think you want to raise at least 3x to give yourself a chance to win pre flop. After the flop I'm not critciting your play, just pointing out you're unlikely to fold the A playing the way you did, CR MIGHT have done it. Once you bet and he moves over the top the call is correct IMO.

[jdubs]

You have 9 Diamonds, 2 Kings, If he donest have AQ, 3 queens as outs. Thats 14 outs.

runner runner straight counts as one!

u can count that as an out?? I didnt know that!

[jdubs]

Being in the position I was, i didnt think the preflop raise was that bad

Don't take it personal, I hate the min raise always. Still if raising KQ I think you want to raise at least 3x to give yourself a chance to win pre flop. After the flop I'm not critciting your play, just pointing out you're unlikely to fold the A playing the way you did, CR MIGHT have done it. Once you bet and he moves over the top the call is correct IMO.

Thanks drm,

I dont really make the min raise very much actually..... it is kinda weak huh? Well after seeing the other out (runner runner) shown above, I guess I did do the right thing after the flop- i had outs I didnt even see!! lol

JD