repping pot's on steals?

[ender555]

***** Hand History for Game 2241978568 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13290110 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Tuesday, June 21, 17:31:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 12774 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 7: ender555 ( $1200 )
Seat 5: YourATM2 ( $455 )
Seat 2: Hally1 ( $1495 )
Seat 6: ronL1 ( $986 )
Seat 8: Pi_An ( $1628 )
Seat 4: jfischet ( $1458 )
Seat 9: jajmes ( $778 )
Trny:13290110 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ender555 [ Qd Ts ]
jfischet folds.
YourATM2 folds.
ronL1 folds.
ender555 raises [300].
Pi_An calls [300].
jajmes folds.
Hally1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 2h, Kc ]




Your move?? Any bet basically cut's my leg's off...

[ender555]

another hand i am curious about..

***** Hand History for Game 2242006883 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13290110 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Tuesday, June 21, 17:38:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 12774 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 7: ender555 ( $750 )
Seat 5: YourATM2 ( $230 )
Seat 2: Hally1 ( $1995 )
Seat 8: Pi_An ( $3394 )
Seat 4: jfischet ( $783 )
Seat 9: jajmes ( $848 )
Trny:13290110 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ender555 [ As Jd ]
jfischet is all-In [783]
>You have options at Table 12185 Table!.
YourATM2 is all-In [230]
ender555 folds.
Pi_An folds.
jajmes folds.
Hally1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 5d, Qh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
jfischet shows [ 3c, Kc ] a pair of fives.
YourATM2 shows [ 7d, 6h ] a pair of fives.
jfischet wins 553 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of fives with king kicker.
jfischet wins 760 chips from the main pot with a pair of fives with king kicker.
YourATM2 finished in sixth place.
YourATM2 has left the table.

[drmcboy]

with 4x BB I'm delighted to get my money in with AJ. As you saw there is no reason to give these guys credit for a better hand, coin flip is your friend, in this spot I'm happy with a live A.

First hand is much tougher. You still have enough to fold people out if you check fold now, I think you give that one up. May get called not just by a K but almost any pair. If you do anything it must be AI I think.

[mike4066]

1st hand i'd consider checking a continuation bet pretty much pot comits you.

2nd hand i'd run iwth AJ in that situation..
You have 2 hands before you in for 25% of yoru stack in teh bb.

[vqc]

1st hand, if your intention was to steal, you have failed. Just let it go.

2nd hand. push.

[ender555]

k thanks guys.. i just figured i could live on folding that aj, and since the small stack called he probly had an ace. Bad thinkin becauset hey both had the blinds coming to them... oh well. next time i push

[RHCNNN]

First hand, I think probably check/fold. Because you really don't have a lot of room to play around is you lose this hand. The button has a lot more chips than you, and can call with any king, or a flush draw even.

On the second hand I don't mind calling or folding. I think both choices are reasonable. There's no reason not to give the first guy credit for going all in with a better ace or a pair. But its also very common to see people do it with worse hands at low buy-in SnGs. Either way, I think you can have a better chance (less of a gamble in the dark) later on probably, even if its just stealing blinds with nothing before you pick up a real hand. So I think the fold is fine here.

[vqc]

Shit I change my opinion on hand two.

You can fold this hand and not feel bad about it, there are already 2 people all in ahead of you. Letting the hand go is not bad.

[ender555]

I've got another treat for you guy's

***** Hand History for Game 2242592799 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13293426 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Tuesday, June 21, 19:41:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 11139 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: riptidebsi ( $990 )
Seat 4: JBH812 ( $750 )
Seat 8: rocksong ( $1635 )
Seat 7: ender555 ( $1420 )
Seat 9: BlndThf ( $915 )
Seat 10: trezmonster ( $1195 )
Seat 1: Acc123 ( $1095 )
Trny:13293426 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ender555 [ Qh As ]
rocksong folds.
BlndThf folds.
trezmonster folds.
Acc123 folds.
riptidebsi is all-In [990]
JBH812 folds.
ender555 calls [890].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, Jc, 7h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
ender555 shows [ Qh, As ] a pair of jacks.
riptidebsi shows [ 8h, 8c ] two pairs, jacks and eights.
riptidebsi wins 2030 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and eights.



My thinking was that I had him dominated or had a big advantage in coinflip. Turned out to be wrong, but oh well. Bad call or what? I did sacrifice a decent chip position on a coin flip....

[RHCNNN]

How could you have a big advantage in a coinflip? A coinflip means its 50-50 (more or less in poker) by denifition.

You knew what you were doing here, taking a flip for a big chuck of your stack, or maaaaaaaaaaaaybe dominating an AJ, or A10 or something. Its not the worst call ever, but you know that you're just leaving it all up to the poker gods when you make this call.

[ender555]

i meant race not coinflip. I really thought I would be ahead here I was just curious what others would say. not a bad situation to knock someone out and cruise to 1st or 2nd

[drmcboy]

VQ, I can't believe you're folding, look at the Ms! UTG should move with any two, and once he does UTG+1 has pot odds to go with any two. You're getting 2/1 on your money here, I'd call if I knew one had QQ and one had KK. But K3 and 54s are way more likely.

The AQ hand would be a read play for me. Default is fold unless the guy's been playing loose or raising every pot. I guess my question would be why you think you're way ahead? Calling AI with AQ you're going to be behind way more than you're ahead. I don't see how you're 'cruising' to first or second even if you win, but you're crippled if you lose.

race = coin flip