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  1. #1
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    Default 3 tough hands for review

    These hands are all very advanced..

    Hand #1: Villain lays down KK to my AA pre-flop! (at least thats what he said), how should I have handled this?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2287525302 *****
    $400 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 30, 14:25:27 EDT 2005
    Table Table 55032 (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 3: rduke ( $575 )
    Seat 5: gledhi ( $312.8 )
    Seat 7: keystone34 ( $905.6 )
    Seat 9: JeffrayD ( $307.48 )
    Seat 10: scound ( $415 )
    Seat 1: EvilEcstasy_ ( $555.9 )
    Seat 6: DaisyIf_Udo_ ( $388.8 )
    Seat 2: LeeRoyboy20 ( $396 )
    Seat 4: bogjavul123 ( $400 )
    keystone34 posts small blind [$2].
    JeffrayD posts big blind [$4].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Ac As ]
    scound calls [$4].
    go_player has joined the table.
    >You have options at Table 36558 Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ raises [$15].
    LeeRoyboy20 calls [$15].
    >You have options at Table 36831 Table!.
    rduke folds.
    gledhi folds.
    DaisyIf_Udo_ folds.
    keystone34 calls [$13].
    JeffrayD folds.
    scound raises [$46].
    >You have options at Table 36864 Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ raises [$160].
    LeeRoyboy20 folds.
    keystone34 folds.
    >You have options at Table 36864 Table!.
    scound folds.
    EvilEcstasy_ does not show cards.
    EvilEcstasy_ wins $259
    whatd you have scound?
    JeffrayD has left the table.

    Hand #2: I get two pair, then 4-to-a-straight shows up, how should this have been handled?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2287519647 *****
    $600 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 30, 14:23:45 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36558 (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: taywilson200 ( $600 )
    Seat 2: seantrogers ( $883.05 )
    Seat 3: muckerchuckr ( $251.17 )
    Seat 4: russZ06 ( $504.1 )
    Seat 7: biyuhu ( $514.45 )
    Seat 8: hillaryin08 ( $404.1 )
    Seat 10: MoneyAintSht ( $405.44 )
    Seat 9: AKoChainsaw3 ( $600 )
    Seat 6: EvilEcstasy_ ( $391 )
    Seat 5: Fazoolfish ( $600 )
    biyuhu posts small blind [$3].
    hillaryin08 posts big blind [$6].
    Fazoolfish posts big blind [$6].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Ts Ah ]
    AKoChainsaw3 folds.
    MoneyAintSht calls [$6].
    taywilson200 folds.
    seantrogers folds.
    muckerchuckr folds.
    russZ06 folds.
    Fazoolfish checks.
    EvilEcstasy_ raises [$20].
    biyuhu folds.
    hillaryin08 folds.
    MoneyAintSht calls [$14].
    Fazoolfish folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Ac, 9d ]
    MoneyAintSht checks.
    EvilEcstasy_ bets [$30].
    MoneyAintSht calls [$30].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
    >You have options at Table 55032 (No DP) Table!.
    MoneyAintSht checks.
    >You have options at Table 36864 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 36831 Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ bets [$100].
    MoneyAintSht calls [$100].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
    >You have options at Table 55032 (No DP) Table!.
    MoneyAintSht bets [$175].
    >You have options at Table 36831 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 55032 (No DP) Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ did not respond in time.
    EvilEcstasy_ folds.
    MoneyAintSht does not show cards.
    MoneyAintSht wins $487

    Hand #3: Should I have folded this KQ pre-flop? I have a feeling that I should have as it was likely to be dominated and I was out of position. What should I do about his flop bet?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2287509295 *****
    $400 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 30, 14:20:42 EDT 2005
    Table Table 55032 (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 3: rduke ( $581 )
    Seat 4: riverat911 ( $112.9 )
    Seat 5: gledhi ( $338.8 )
    Seat 7: keystone34 ( $949.6 )
    Seat 8: JesseTroyn ( $1091.4 )
    Seat 9: JeffrayD ( $341.98 )
    Seat 10: scound ( $334 )
    Seat 2: bluenipple ( $389.2 )
    Seat 1: EvilEcstasy_ ( $426 )
    Seat 6: DaisyIf_Udo_ ( $380 )
    scound posts small blind [$2].
    EvilEcstasy_ posts big blind [$4].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Kc Qs ]
    bluenipple folds.
    rduke folds.
    riverat911 raises [$10].
    gledhi calls [$10].
    DaisyIf_Udo_ folds.
    keystone34 folds.
    JesseTroyn folds.
    >You have options at Table 36558 Table!.
    JeffrayD folds.
    scound folds.
    EvilEcstasy_ calls [$6].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Kh, 3h ]
    EvilEcstasy_ checks.
    riverat911 bets [$30].
    gledhi folds.
    >You have options at Table 36558 Table!.
    >You have options at Table 36831 Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ calls [$30].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
    >You have options at Table 36831 Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ bets [$80].
    riverat911 is all-In [$72.9]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
    >You have options at Table 36864 Table!.
    EvilEcstasy_ shows [ Kc, Qs ] two pairs, kings and queens.
    riverat911 doesn't show [ Ad, Kd ] two pairs, kings and threes.
    EvilEcstasy_ wins $7.1 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and queens.
    EvilEcstasy_ wins $234.8 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.
    BR now: $106900
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    Doh!!! I don't think I'm experienced enough to answer!! Feel free to ignore me if my replies are not advanced enough... (Seriously)

    Hand #1: I probably play exactly the same. His re-raise advocates QQ or KK. If you just call his pre-flop re-raise, then you risk the other player in the hand coming along, and lessening the chances of your aces holding up. Your re-re-raise tells him that you have aces or kings as well. If that other person wasn't in the pot, I may opt to just call, and sucker him into a flop bet if a K or Q doesn't hit.

    Hand #2: Borderline decision on the end (I may not be advanced enough for this one...) but I say you're beat. That is almost exactly how I would play a set if I knew my opp had an ace. Do you fear KJ here? Would he have called the flop bet to chase the 10? I may have bet a little more on the flop just to be sure where I stood. And his river bet of $175 screams confidence and is just begging you to call. Very tough one indeed.

    Hand #3: Yes, out of position, possible domination, full-ring, fold pre-flop. After the flop, I'm looking for a reason to fold, and three hearts showing is enough of an excuse for me... (Although this could be a great place for a big semi-bluff... i guess that's what you did on the turn, although it's a pretty risky move against a short stack...) Great suck out though!

    (My .02 - Please let me know if I passed the test and I am qualified to respond to your posts in the future!! )
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    You're good.. just in the past had some complete beginners like saying what they would do and its not much help lol.. good points..

    I had position on the guy that reraised with KK I should have just smooth-called and I could have taken his stack. I just didnt believe it was possible to lay down KK to AA pre-flop. Guess it is (though probably not the wisest decision always)
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    himself fucker.
    Hand 1: Since he limp-raised utg, you've got a chance to get cute and fake weakness and let him bluff/commit himself on any flop reguardless of what he has. You've got position here, but a reraise is an acceptable line.

    Hand 2: It's tough. This hand confuses me a little bit. I think he's making a blocking/value bet with a straight and feels only the flush can raise him. It's an interesting river bet, but the action confuses me. I'd like to know more about your opponent.

    Hand 3: Defending your blind for such a cheap price with KQo is alright. You need the lead the flop or check-raise as essentially your last actions.

    -'rilla
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    Anyone who wants to attempt to analyze these hands should do so. The learning here isn't reserved exclusively for the person who posts the hands.

    People get better by looking at these hands, and having their analysis critiqued. If someone posts something you don't agree with, ignore it, or, even better, say why you don't agree with it, and that person's understanding will improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishMagician
    Anyone who wants to attempt to analyze these hands should do so. The learning here isn't reserved exclusively for the person who posts the hands.

    People get better by looking at these hands, and having their analysis critiqued. If someone posts something you don't agree with, ignore it, or, even better, say why you don't agree with it, and that person's understanding will improve.
    Good point FishMagician.. didnt think of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishMagician
    Anyone who wants to attempt to analyze these hands should do so. The learning here isn't reserved exclusively for the person who posts the hands.

    People get better by looking at these hands, and having their analysis critiqued. If someone posts something you don't agree with, ignore it, or, even better, say why you don't agree with it, and that person's understanding will improve.
    Naw, these are too advanced for our puny brains to handle. Heck, [ Ac As ]? We don’t even get those hands in the micros. It’s like they use a different deck or something.
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    ^^ LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
    Hand 1: Since he limp-raised utg, you've got a chance to get cute and fake weakness and let him bluff/commit himself on any flop reguardless of what he has. You've got position here, but a reraise is an acceptable line.
    -'rilla
    Do you not even worry about the other two players to act after you? (Pre-flop)
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  10. #10
    hand 1: played fine, he showed major strength limp-raising, if he really laid down KK then gj to him, but 99% of the time this play will work fine for you.

    hand 2: he trapped the hell out of you, im thinking set of 9s, nothin you can do here except do what you did, lay it down on the river

    hand 3: calling preflop was fine, i probably would have just check-raised him all in since you were obviously going to bet into him on the turn anyway and he didnt have much left.

    all hands played pretty well IMO

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