The two hands that busted me - 200 person 10 + 1

[bencathers]

***** Hand History for Game 2338901979 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:13800784 Level:3 Blinds (15/30) - Sunday, July 10, 00:13:53 EDT 2005
Table ($10/1) Million Dollar Qualifier(387247) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: rkaiser333 ( $660 )
Seat 2: mckivan ( $1378 )
Seat 3: backboard420 ( $2505 )
Seat 5: gullofm1 ( $759 )
Seat 6: johnmtags ( $590 )
Seat 7: Ragnarok48 ( $1405 )
Seat 8: JayhawkLuke ( $1881 )
Seat 9: Madfarmer999 ( $3640 )
Seat 10: bencathers ( $1816 )
Trny:13800784 Level:3
Blinds (15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bencathers [ Kc Kh ]
backboard420 calls [30].
gullofm1 folds.
johnmtags folds.
Ragnarok48 calls [30].
JayhawkLuke folds.
Madfarmer999 calls [30].
bencathers raises [250].
rkaiser333 folds.
mckivan calls [220].
backboard420 folds.
Ragnarok48 folds.
Madfarmer999 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Qc, Ts ]
mckivan checks.
bencathers bets [100].
mckivan calls [100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
mckivan checks.
bencathers checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
mckivan checks.
bencathers checks.
mckivan shows [ As, Ad ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
bencathers shows [ Kc, Kh ] two pairs, kings and jacks.
mckivan wins 805 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and jacks.

I bet on the flop for information.. it was a damn scary flop for me... at the end, I thought I may of won the pot, so I checked, since I was satisfied with the win... my only thoughts were "thank God he didn't re-raise me all in pre-flop"

Should I of been more aggressive on the turn or river? Or was this a case of "no fold em hold em?"

then the hand that busted me... comments please?

***** Hand History for Game 2338965460 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:13800784 Level:4 Blinds (25/50) - Sunday, July 10, 00:25:35 EDT 2005
Table ($10/1) Million Dollar Qualifier(387247) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: mckivan ( $3138 )
Seat 3: backboard420 ( $2270 )
Seat 5: gullofm1 ( $1034 )
Seat 7: Ragnarok48 ( $1145 )
Seat 8: JayhawkLuke ( $2826 )
Seat 9: Madfarmer999 ( $3385 )
Seat 10: bencathers ( $1236 )
Seat 1: mojosmed ( $2345 )
Seat 4: DebzNy ( $960 )
Seat 6: AuntieM4ou ( $1430 )
Trny:13800784 Level:4
Blinds (25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bencathers [ 2d Kd ]
gullofm1 folds.
AuntieM4ou calls [50].
Ragnarok48 folds.
JayhawkLuke folds.
Madfarmer999 folds.
bencathers calls [50].
Ragnarok48: all right! lol
mojosmed raises [100].
mckivan folds.
backboard420 folds.
DebzNy calls [50].
AuntieM4ou calls [50].
bencathers calls [50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Ks, Qc ]
DebzNy checks.
AuntieM4ou checks.
bencathers bets [50].
mojosmed raises [100].
DebzNy folds.
AuntieM4ou folds.
bencathers is all-In [1086]
mojosmed calls [1036].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
mojosmed shows [ Ts, As ] a straight, ten to ace.
bencathers shows [ 2d, Kd ] three of a kind, kings.
mojosmed wins 2697 chips from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

Ok yes, I know K2 suited isn't a hand I should be playing out of position. But after the KK hit, next hand I flopped two pair, only to lose another sizeable chunk of chips to someone who hit a set... then a cold rush of cards before I got this.

Now, the reason why I went all in was because of the read I had on this guy:
-He limped, from the button, AA and KK earlier.. and was beat on both - 34 o/s beat him actually (and he bitched to everyone.... so he was a fish.. or a pro pretending to be a fish)

-Second, he was raising pre-flop with JJ, 10-10 and high suited cards

Now, it was very possible for him to be holding QQ or KK... however, this guy's one major tell was that if he hit the flop, he bet big.. whether it was a re-raise or a raise.. he re-raised small if he didn't hit the flop, but bet pre-flop... I knew all this.

So, I bet 50, knowing anyone else with a K was going to own me.. a major re-raise from him and I was letting this hand down... however, he only raised me 50 (but that was good enough to get rid of everyone else)

Immediately, I put him on AQ or somehow hitting the queen. I knew he didn't hit the K at all... however, my hand was still very, very vunerable. Although I assumed he had AQ, it was still very possible for him to have a medium to high PP. I didn't want to run the risk of him hitting his PP and then hitting the boat... but one thing I was sure... he did NOT have the K.

Should I of maybe made a sizeable re-raise? The reason why I felt he called was because he felt my re-raise all in was a bluff... he took quite a while... almost running out of time before he made the call... I wanted the hand to end right there. I was ahead, but was afraid of what was to come.

Ultimately, I almost wish to re-raise a pot size bet, then when the turn was a blank, hit all in... would that of been a better strategy against someone with this type of hand? Or no matter what, he was gonna stay in and hit that damn straight.

By the way, I'm mainly a LHE player, but I'm moving to tournaments, because I find them really enjoyable... so please critique this play!

[studboyjoe]

your play on #1 was fine, you were destined to lose that hand and, as they say, that's poker.

On #2, other than avoiding the hand altogether, your play was right the rest of the way, I can't believe he called your all-in for an inside straight draw.

These two hands are the hate part of the poker love/hate relationship. Hang in there!

[drmcboy]

#1 I don't see what info you get betting what, 1/5 the pot? Any J, Q, str8 or flush draw is calling there. Either put out a real bet or check, with my preference being a real bet, 3/4 PS or so.

#2 is all about reads... in a vacuum an AI here is unlikely to be called unless you are beat, but clearly this dude was a goof.

1. If you want to bet for information, you really want to be betting 1/2 pot at least, you're getting called by pretty much anything on a 1/5 pot bet.

2. Very much read dependant, I assume you knew the guy was retarded and would call your all in?

[bencathers]

I knew he'd call my all in with a Queen or even a high pocket pair (I never put him on a straight draw, which still has me scratching my head) personally my goal was just to end the hand right there, and I knew he did not have the K.. but I think he felt I was bluffing so he called me.

If I know someone thinks I'm bluffing in a hand like this, what should I do? Maybe put out a strong bet, but not AI? Because to some fish, AI on this looks like a bluff, as they say "why would he go AI if he has a boat or an unbeatable hand... he should slow play!!"