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    Default C/R for value...BACKFIRED!

    Strung has proven sort of loose so far...I've been aggressive and have won several pots w/o a showdown. Should I have bet more on the flop?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2354931436 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em Trny:13886515 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Tuesday, July 12, 23:49:52 EDT 2005
    Table Multi-Table (389145) Table #32 (Real Money)
    Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 1: LeXXy505 ( $1095 )
    Seat 2: strungout7 ( $865 )
    Seat 3: raskkal ( $875 )
    Seat 5: colmaabe ( $1410 )
    Seat 6: Finao ( $1345 )
    Seat 7: lionlow ( $940 )
    Seat 8: Chicago_Kid ( $1125 )
    Seat 9: damien1573 ( $2640 )
    Seat 10: tommy_ezt ( $750 )
    Trny:13886515 Level:2
    Blinds (10/20)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Chicago_Kid [ 7d 9h ]
    tommy_ezt folds.
    LeXXy505 folds.
    strungout7 calls [20].
    raskkal calls [20].
    colmaabe calls [20].
    Finao folds.
    lionlow folds.
    Chicago_Kid calls [10].
    damien1573 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 7s, Qh ]
    Chicago_Kid checks.
    damien1573 checks.
    strungout7 bets [100].
    raskkal folds.
    colmaabe calls [100].
    Chicago_Kid raises [275].
    damien1573 folds.
    strungout7 calls [175].
    colmaabe calls [175].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
    sTiteyYTs has joined the table.
    Player sTiteyYTs has been moved from table 84 to this table
    Chicago_Kid bets [300].
    strungout7 is all-In [570]
    colmaabe folds.
    Chicago_Kid calls [270].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
    Chicago_Kid shows [ 7d, 9h ] two pairs, nines and sevens.
    strungout7 shows [ Jh, Ts ] a straight, eight to queen.
    strungout7 wins 2065 chips from the main pot with a straight, eight to queen.
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  2. #2
    I think you should have definately raised more on the flop. Fairly vulnerable, and you were giving pretty decent pot odds I'm sure.
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    Yeah only way you can stop him drawing there is to bet huge on the flop. May as well go for 600 or allin and push them both off / give them a bad price.

    You should have slowed down on the turn and let him bet.

    You can make a case for it not costing much more to call when he goes allin as I suppose you are hoping to fill up on the river, but its pretty clear you're behind.
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    i play it the same
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    I would definately raise more on the flop, you have two guys that obviously like their hands, you need to give them something more to think about.

    Though it might be tough to get him out of this, as you say he's a loose player and he flopped an open ended straight draw; who knows how far he would want to chase it down. But with a higher raise, and he calls it still and then that 8 shows up, I would definately back off and give him some credit. Unless he's stupid loose I'm sure I'd fall into it the same...
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    oh yea, raise more on flop
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    I vote bet out on the flop - your image is agg, take advantage. CR is for people who know they have been playing so tight they can't make any moeny with a bet. Plus this hand being checked around is a diaster for you, so many scare cards out there. If you'd bet out and gotten raised you could have moved in right there, if you'd bet out and been called twice maybe you have a chance to get away when the 8 comes.
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    Yeah, I agree that the weak flop c/r did me in.
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