Good or bad call?

[dthorne04]

My friends and I disagreed over this hand...

At this point, I was getting completely cold decked at the final table. Chips weren't moving at a great pace at all, and the biggest hand lately had gone down with an untimely bluff by the guy moving all in, as he bluffed into pocket queens. I was left with a tough decision as I looked down at 4,4. He represented a good amount of my chip stack. A good part of me read him for ace whatever, thinking that I really did have the better hand than him. I was more worried about him than the guy who limped, he was very tight and likely to fold if i called, or moved. Still...At best, I was a slight favorite. I like to exploit advantages when I'm sure I have them.


Stage #155564038: Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $2500 [
2005-07-14 21:49:12 ]
*** ANTE [dealer 6] ***
Seat 7 - OMOMOMO $29020 in chips
Seat 8 - DTHORNE04 $47990 in chips
Seat 9 - POP300 $79574.50 in chips
Seat 1 - CENCH26 $45282.50 in chips
Seat 3 - DAVVVE $63093 in chips
Seat 4 - WAKEUPGRANPA $128343.50 in chips
Seat 5 - PIMPERY $68514 in chips
Seat 6 - PAVEL $31682.50 in chips
CENCH26 - Ante $250
DAVVVE - Ante $250
WAKEUPGRANPA - Ante $250
PIMPERY - Ante $250
PAVEL - Ante $250
OMOMOMO - Ante $250
DTHORNE04 - Ante $250
POP300 - Ante $250
OMOMOMO - Post small blind $2500
DTHORNE04 - Post big blind $5000
DTHORNE04 - Pocket [4s,4d]
POP300 - Folds
CENCH26 - Calls $5000
DAVVVE - Folds
WAKEUPGRANPA - Folds
PIMPERY - Folds
PAVEL - Folds
OMOMOMO - All-In(Raise) $2500 to $28770
DTHORNE04 -???

[gabe]

i would probably fold. he must a hand that is pretty decent to push behind a tight utgh limper.

[TanO]

Fold, especially when the table is as tight as you suggest in your description.

Filling in the gaps, of course I'm guessing that this guy probably hasnt played a hand for about 40 minutes and now suddenly wakes up. Be patient, give people enough rope and they love to hang themselves at final tables.

[Pingviini]

At best you are a slight favourite, at worst in really bad shape. He could be making this move with any 2, his M (antes+SB+BB) is about 3 and effective M about 2.5. Your M's are about 5 and 4. If your pair was a bit higher than 44, say 77 or 88 I would be making this call but probably not here. A tough one tho because of the small M's.


Read HoH2! I am pretty sure gabe the mouse has..

EDIT: I think that Harrington would be making the call.

[xxDFOCxx]

Fold.

4,4 is not that strong. he must have something, or even if not, he will surely have two over cards on you.

to me I fold

[drmcboy]

tough spot but I 'll go with the crowd and say fold. You feel pretty silly running a race against J6o here.

[very_sneaky]

its not tough .. fold .. if ur gonna play 44 .. make sure its heads up and at most 3 people .. u don't wanna hope on hittin the dream set on the river .. fold and let them bust