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How hard do u trust flopped trips with crappy kicker?

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    Default How hard do u trust flopped trips with crappy kicker?

    I usually have the sense to fold weak kickers vrs aggression...but I hardly ever fold trips in fear of kickers. Even in multiway pots with little invested vs an all in. Is this a leak? The only time I fold it is if I put someone on a flush or str8. If I am going to lay down these hands I feel I shouldn't complete the small blind except with premium hands--since what could I be hoping for except trips! Today I play suited connecters from sb. Do u differentiate between the trips--Ie I tend to feel more certain with 555 than say AAA with a weak kicker..All in all I'm way plus in $ from the times I hit trips, but I couldnt help but wonder...
    Is this a set over set--shit happens sort of thing or do u all actually fold ur bb j2 with flop JJK... to a reraise all in.
    Just thought I'd throw this out there and c what u all think.
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    pretty much read dependent, unless the guy is nice and tight I'm going broke.

    I'd say I lay down set for fear of bigger set 0 % of the time.
    Lay down possibly outkicked trips 10% of the time, max.

    Depends on board texture too - K77r flop pretty tough to fold any 7, any K likes that flop pretty well. 772r flop and I'm looking at 67 and the guy stays with me... here's where you maybe get away, but because people will play overpair hard in this spot it's still tough. Easier to get away if a limped pot, in a raised pot I'm usually not going to give a guy credit for a better 7.. If a flush draw is there it's hard to get away as well.

    During the FSN thing the other day Dan N had KK I think in BB, Clonie SB had A2, A high flop, i think both checked... anyway turn was another A and Howard L said something like, Oh, tough for Daniel to get away now, much less likely Clonie has the A. So if Howard's saying that with Daniel not holding an A, imagine what he'd say if they were both holding an A. So if it's a leak, the pros have it too. Dan lost about half his stack here.
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    Id like to hear what others think of laying down trips...I rarely lay it down(on a safe board), unless I get an amazing read on someone. Its sort of like that thread in here talking about laying down a full boat to quads, you just have to pay him off, its too rare.
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    Yeah lol the more I typed the more I had trouble finding a spot I'd really lay them down... Doyle mentions this as one of the reasons not to play trap hands - AQ AJ KQ etc, because you just can't get away when you turn trips, and he's talking cash game, where I think it would be more reasonable to get away from weak kicker trips .

    Challenge - someone post a HH where you laid them down with no str8/flush out, and we'll dissect it. If no one has one, we'll have the answer!

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