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  1. #1
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    Default check or bluff?

    Check or bet (and bluff) here?

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    ***** Hand History for Game 2427958710 *****
    $400 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 26, 16:12:25 EDT 2005
    Table Table 48773 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 1: Rockinsky ( $618.60 )
    Seat 2: texasgodd ( $466 )
    Seat 3: Capt_Mo_Man ( $518.75 )
    Seat 4: EvilEcstasy_ ( $146 )
    Seat 6: RavenQ ( $519.10 )
    EvilEcstasy_ posts small blind [$2].
    RavenQ posts big blind [$4].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Qd Ah ]
    Rockinsky folds.
    texasgodd folds.
    Capt_Mo_Man raises [$15].
    EvilEcstasy_ calls [$13].
    RavenQ folds.
    >You have options at Table 40492 (6 max) Table!.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 5h, 7h ]
    >You have options at Table 54912 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
    jfalstaff has joined the table.
    EvilEcstasy_ checks.
    Capt_Mo_Man bets [$16].
    EvilEcstasy_ calls [$16].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
    EvilEcstasy_ checks.
    Capt_Mo_Man checks.
    ** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
    EvilEcstasy_ ???
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  2. #2
    need reads here.
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  3. #3
    Yeah, seems like he's thinking that you're onto his continuation bet on the flop there, so I can see why you question it. The only thing that is weird there is that he bet the same on the flop as he did with his PFR. That was a hefty PFR (hit the Bet Pot button?) which usually indicates that someone has at least a decent drawing hand, if not a high PP. However, when they DO have a nice PP, at 2/4 you'll usually see ANOTHER pot sized bet on the flop, not like here. Also interesting is that when the K fell on the turn, he froze. I'd check here: he either had something like 8s-10s and decided you had a K but would call to find out on the river OR you have him beat anyway with the nice AQ. Depends on your read, of course, but if he had a set or 4-6 or something and thought you were agressive, I could see why he'd hope for a steal bluff there at the end.

    I say check unless you have a good read.
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  4. #4
    The thing is, not only the PF raiser froze on the turn, but so did spino1i so this will make it look more like a steal increasing the chances you're going to get a call. Unless he thinks that you were checking to make it look like you were scared of the king too but actually held a monster and was therefore planning to trap on the river, but I'm just being retarded now. In conclusion, I think he's more likely to call but this is going without reads here.

    Why call a raise out of position with AQo?

    Also, why are you always shortstacked now? If you're under rolled for the 400's why not move down and take advantage of the easy money that is being given out like candy lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
    The thing is, not only the PF raiser froze on the turn, but so did spino1i so this will make it look more like a steal increasing the chances you're going to get a call. Unless he thinks that you were checking to make it look like you were scared of the king too but actually held a monster and was therefore planning to trap on the river, but I'm just being retarded now. In conclusion, I think he's more likely to call but this is going without reads here.

    Why call a raise out of position with AQo?

    Also, why are you always shortstacked now? If you're under rolled for the 400's why not move down and take advantage of the easy money that is being given out like candy lately?

    I'm not trying to pick on you by the way
    I agree I can make a lot at 100 and 200 NL 6-max, but ive already beaten them and im way overbankrolled for them. As you'll notice in my sig, I'm actually generously bankrolled for 400 NL 6-max too. However, the players are so much better at 400 NL 6-max that I am buying short-stacked so I can learn as much as possible and loose as little as possible while im learning. I have yet to make a single cent off of 400 NL 6-max (im dead even right now), but I have learned a lot and eventually I will be able to beat it. That just shows how much harder it is than 200 NL 6-max.

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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by spino1i
    Quote Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
    The thing is, not only the PF raiser froze on the turn, but so did spino1i so this will make it look more like a steal increasing the chances you're going to get a call. Unless he thinks that you were checking to make it look like you were scared of the king too but actually held a monster and was therefore planning to trap on the river, but I'm just being retarded now. In conclusion, I think he's more likely to call but this is going without reads here.

    Why call a raise out of position with AQo?

    Also, why are you always shortstacked now? If you're under rolled for the 400's why not move down and take advantage of the easy money that is being given out like candy lately?

    I'm not trying to pick on you by the way
    I agree I can make a lot at 100 and 200 NL 6-max, but ive already beaten them and im way overbankrolled for them. As you'll notice in my sig, I'm actually generously bankrolled for 400 NL 6-max too. However, the players are so much better at 400 NL 6-max that I am buying short-stacked so I can learn as much as possible and loose as little as possible while im learning. I have yet to make a single cent off of 400 NL 6-max (im dead even right now), but I have learned a lot and eventually I will be able to beat it. That just shows how much harder it is than 200 NL 6-max.

    Results to come soon..

    Ahh I see, well good luck to you there. I'm sure you'll be crushing them in due time. You ever datamine the 400's while you're asleep? It might be interesting to find the big winners and have a few thousand hands logged under them and helpful to know where you can find some habitual fish.
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  7. #7
    Fold PF. I won't call a raise like that from out of position with AQos.

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