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    Default Empire 10+1. Friends Hand. OESD

    ***** Hand History for Game 2429149471 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em $5 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14284960 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Tuesday, July 26, 20:01:00 EDT 2005
    Table Table 12477 (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 10: LARCHWOOD ( $1650 )
    Seat 3: Xiphoid10 ( $1160 )
    Seat 9: Poji22 ( $2735 )
    Seat 2: Studman_19 ( $1475 )
    Seat 1: riverflush2 ( $980 )
    Trny:14284960 Level:5
    Blinds(75/150)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Poji22 [ Kd Js ]
    LARCHWOOD folds.
    riverflush2 folds.
    Studman_19 calls [150].
    Xiphoid10 calls [75].
    Poji22 checks.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, Qh, 2d ]
    Xiphoid10 checks.
    Poji22 bets [500].
    Studman_19 folds.
    Xiphoid10 is all-In [1010]
    Poji22 calls [510].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]

    I think the call after the flop bet is automatic, but my question is: Should he have bet less on the flop?

    Les say he bet 300 instead of 500, and the guy pushes over. Do you still call?
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    I think either raise works, If he pushes over the top of a 300 raise you can still call with K's as outs most likely too. That 11 outs or ~45% plus the possibility of a fold, plus a Jack might even take it.
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    Yah, I probably call another 700 if he leads 300.

    Pot's already 450+300+1010 and it's only 700 to call with an OESD and long shot at 3 outs for a K.

    I dont think leading 500 is so bad. It tells everyone that he's commited to the pot so you can only push if you have it. Unfortunately.. op had it.

    -'rilla
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    If you intend to call a push, why not just push AI yourself?

    Pro: Increased fold equity.
    Con: Might be easier to put you on a hand, but I don't give the $5.5 players that much credit without a read.

    - Nate
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    i check, if someone bets small i push, if someone pushes i fold.
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    I'm leaning toward pushing the flop, although I think above all good lines. You'd think AQ/KQ would have raised pre flop, QJ is not happy to be calling off his chips... if he's got QT, well, you have outs. I guess the question is - is a weak Q or AT/KT more likely to fold to the 300/500 or the push? Tough to say, but again I lean a bit toward the push. Table image a factor here, if you've been very agg Gabe's line is maybe best.

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