PPskins. 10+1. QQ Early on

[vqc]

***** Hand History for Game 2429505473 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14288111) - Tue Jul 26 21:00:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 11734 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: IGrindHer (800)
Seat 2: andyl03 (785)
Seat 3: Some_In (800)
Seat 4: NICEPITCHR (285)
Seat 5: millerraven (1000)
Seat 6: HONKYMOFO69 (670)
Seat 7: YuckF0u (790)
Seat 8: mrmelg (775)
Seat 9: rdmcintosh (1580)
Seat 10: jefe1923 (515)
jefe1923 posts small blind (10)
IGrindHer posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IGrindHer [ Qs, Qh ]
andyl03 calls (15)
Some_In folds.
NICEPITCHR folds.
millerraven calls (15)
HONKYMOFO69 folds.
YuckF0u folds.
mrmelg folds.
rdmcintosh folds.
jefe1923 calls (5)
IGrindHer raises (85) to 100
andyl03 calls (85)
millerraven folds.
jefe1923 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kh, Kc, 2h ]
IGrindHer checks.
andyl03 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
IGrindHer bets (100)


can someone check my line please?

[a500lbgorilla]

Looks fine. Since you both checked the flop, he might call with a worse pair.

Do you check that flop if you have aces?

-'rilla

[drmcboy]

Yeah I like it with AA or QQ. on the flop I think a bet only gets called by the K or flush draw, and then on the turn you have no idea what to do. Still dicey if you get called/raised here but as rilla said better chance you're in with a lower PP at that point.

If you get called on the turn, check call reasonable bet on river, unless it's a heart, then check fold maybe? Tough hand.

[vqc]

I talked to Gnomes about it, The only haands that beat me on the flop are AA, Kx, and 22. Pretending that im NOT playing at the 10s, AA would have reraised and 22 would have folded to my PFR. Therefore Kx is hte only hand that beats me. THEREFORE, I should value bet the flop becuase I probably have hte bset hand and should put money into the pot.

I think if he had Kx, he woudlve bet out to protect his trips from a free flush.

[drmcboy]

I dunno, I think somone willing to limp call with Kx in EP is also willing to slow play there. Plus your thinking - if he had Kx he would have bet - is only valid after you have seen him check.

[vqc]

well he did act after me on the flop.

So if i check I could be on a Ace High flush draw, and he wold bet the flop to protect. By checking after me, he either has nothing or doenst want to protect.

[Jay67s]

I would play this aggressive. With your big Preflop raise, why don't you rep a big hand on the flop, I would bet at least 225, take it down right there, Play it like you had AK, AA, KK

If you get more action back at you, know to release

I like playing these SNG aggressive with good hands

[gabe]

i definitely beet the flop. maybe think twice if you get raised, but you have the best hand more than enough here.

[vqc]

If I had KK I woudlnt bet the flop.

If I had AK I might lead out to protect the flush, but im not sure if I would feel the need to headsup.

AA I would probably lead out here.

there arent many hands that I can lead out with that wouldnt trigger a bull shit alarm from any half decent player. With a high paired board and a PFR, any super strong hand would check if acting first to slow play. Maybe i give him too much credit and dont need to think too hard and just value bet it like gnomesy said. But If i was up against Gabe and I led out, Gabe would know I wouldnt have KK, and prolbaby not AK or any KX.

I talked to Gnomes about it, The only haands that beat me on the flop are AA, Kx, and 22. Pretending that im NOT playing at the 10s, AA would have reraised and 22 would have folded to my PFR. Therefore Kx is hte only hand that beats me.

Great logic and I agree completely. I would have raised on the flop, however, to push out a flush draw, then checked the turn to see if he got antsy. if he's slowing playing a Kx, he would probably raise on the turn in fear of you having a flush draw especially after the check. If he's got nothing, will probably go for the free card.