Hand that cost me my tourney/ What I need!

[loanhorse]

This hand really screwed me really really really badly.I was doing really good on chips and this is right before the bubble. No reads on this guy since I just got to this table. I attempt to steal the blinds on the flop and this is how the hand played out......


PokerStars Game #2206163164: Tournament #10400642, Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2005/07/28 - 05:40:48 (ET)
Table '10400642 74' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: John 146 (3735 in chips)
Seat 3: kevdog (26615 in chips)
Seat 4: KYWILDCATS23 (17090 in chips)
Seat 5: kmc37 (8342 in chips)
Seat 6: iceboy292 (15000 in chips)
Seat 7: hennisy (15392 in chips)
Seat 8: U_not_Funny (20548 in chips)
Seat 9: tls5757 (11566 in chips)
John 146: posts the ante 50
kevdog: posts the ante 50
KYWILDCATS23: posts the ante 50
kmc37: posts the ante 50
iceboy292: posts the ante 50
hennisy: posts the ante 50
U_not_Funny: posts the ante 50
tls5757: posts the ante 50
hennisy: posts small blind 300
U_not_Funny: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iceboy292 [Tc Kc]
tls5757: folds
John 146: folds
tobedoom is connected
kevdog: folds
KYWILDCATS23: folds
kmc37: folds
iceboy292: raises 1200 to 1800
hennisy: folds
U_not_Funny: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [5d Ts Js]
U_not_Funny: checks
iceboy292: bets 2200
U_not_Funny: calls 2200

I proceed to think I have winning hand. His check call kinda scares me but im not to worried. NOTE- Should of thought checkcall=draw/strong hand.


*** TURN *** [5d Ts Js] [Ks]
U_not_Funny: bets 16498 and is all-in
iceboy292: calls 10950 and is all-in


I dont really think it over like I should, I said maybe that king helped him and hes probally beaten by my two pair. Yet, two pair is to damn strong to lay down. I hope its a bluff and he doesnt have a str8/flush just a draw hopefully. Sometimes I need to let my opponent get away with one on me, and I should of done that but I was torn and split whether this call would be acceptable. He could have Q9o, AQo for a str8. Or even flush that was just made. MY curiosity said CALL and I did. The results are at the bottom of this post.









RESULTS


*** RIVER *** [5d Ts Js Ks] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
U_not_Funny: shows [2s 3s] (a flush, King high)
iceboy292: shows [Tc Kc] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
U_not_Funny collected 30600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 30600 | Rake 0
Board [5d Ts Js Ks 5s]
Seat 1: John 146 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kevdog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: KYWILDCATS23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kmc37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: iceboy292 (button) showed [Tc Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 7: hennisy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: U_not_Funny (big blind) showed [2s 3s] and won (30600) with a flush, King high
Seat 9: tls5757 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

YEp, I lost got 71st place when 63rd pays off. This play made me want to barf. Him holding 23s suprised me. I had plenty of chips to continue if I folded. I was more pist at myself, when I make a bad decision I take it very harshly. O well I still dont know what I learned from this hand but maybe you guys can enlighten me on how to not fall victim to this move again. Any advice in general would be awesome. I dont want to hear you should not have raised preflop because in these MTTs you have to steal blinds.


I like when someone on the IRC chat watches over my MTT and is at hand to offer advice when I ask. Problem is sometimes its late at night or everyones busy. I did not have anyone there this tournament, if I did this mistake could have been prevented. This hand in my mind was just not well thought out and I cost myself alota hours spent and a good stack on one freaking hand. Anyone have Aol instant messenger/ MSN that they can pm me, who would be willing to keep an eye on my MTT's. I always play better when I have a second opinion. I play MTT's at all different times of the day and just want advice on key hands or when im deep in a tournament. Plus people like soupie, Davsimon, etc. do not have the time to have my window open and talk about alot of hands with me, plus I have no mic. Id prefer someone with alota experience who does not mind me bothering them every now and then. If it makes a difference when I hit and crack a final table I would be glad to send some of my profit to anyone who has spent thier time helping me progress and who has been their when I needed advice at crucial times. I consider this tool invaluable.

[TanO]

Having just arrived at the table you have no "image equity" nothing you have done before in the tournament is of any relevance unless these guys happen to have been at your table. Depending when this table make break their may be no point building an image either. In the tourneys I play the tables break in sequence at the end of a tourney, so you can tell that if you're at table 6 with 71 players left you will be moved when 11 more players drop.

That said you're raise PF is perfectly ok, and the flop bet is too, but when both are called and he's allin on the turn you have to let the hand go, there's just too much threat out there and he's unlikely to go allin against you when he can't have a read either since you just got there. The way he plays it I'd put him on the straight 80% of the time or maybe two medium clubs.

[vaks]

thats just some bs in my opinion... but for someone watching over your MTT's... you could try getting a hooker to come over... tie her up, and make her watch you play poker... not sure how well it would work, but just a suggestion take it as you will

well good luck!

[gabe]

the ony thing you beat is a pure bluff, you can't call this.

[elanto]

you played the hand fine, i liked the pfr and the bet on the flop but unless you had a powerful read on your opponent you couldnt call his all in bet, it was time to let your hand go...anyways i would be glad to help you out by i dont have aol i have msn messenger....


-anto

[Theeggman]

the ony thing you beat is a pure bluff

Disagree, he beats TPTK and other paired hands and has outs to the boat.

you can't call this.

Fully agree. You are way behind.