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    Default Not a hand history as much as a stragegy!

    Hey I got this wierd idea about how to play big PPs like AA KK and QQ.

    Heres the problem: U get AA early pos, u bet preflop, someone calls, board comes k 9 3 two spades, u got no spades. U bet pot to protect ur hand, someone calls, turn is 5 of diamonds, now what ??? Heres the problem, u should bet pot again to protect ur hand, but if u do u more or less commits urself to the pot. Now if u dont bet u give a free card in case the other guy got a draw, and that might be a potential disaster. So what do u do ? Well most of the time I bet, and pay the set off.

    Sooo...

    How about making a standard preflop raise, and then on the flop, instead of betting 70-100% of the pot, bet 120-150% ?

    If ppl call that u know they got a piece of it, and u dont have to bet big on turn to chase out potentila draws.

    So on the turn u can bet small, or just check it down depending on reads.

    Of couse u get more vulnerable against two pairs, since they usually reraise u back right on the flop, but two pairs aint usually the hand that destacks me, sets reraising the turn or river are.

    I think im gonna give this a short, im gonna report here how it goes!
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    overbetting the flop when you are clearly ahead is a mistake.
    The interesting thing about an opp. on the draw is that you WANT him to call when the odds are not in his favor. You WANT him to make a mistake. It's +EV when that happens. You have to get used to this idea: It's not about pots, its about EV.

    So what's the right amount to bet if you WANT your opp. to call? 50% of draws get bad odds if you make them pay 3:1 for the next card. That's actually a 1/2 pot sized bet. But, to make their mistake even worse (and to cover the other 30% which are profitable at 3:1 and for implied odds) betting 2/3 the pot is a good idea. If you feel they may CALL more (and if you are inexperienced at reading a made draw), bet the full pot. But.. DON"T BET TO PUSH THEM OUT! BET TO GET THEM TO MAKE A MISTAKE!!
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by DimitriT
    overbetting the flop when you are clearly ahead is a mistake.
    The interesting thing about an opp. on the draw is that you WANT him to call when the odds are not in his favor. You WANT him to make a mistake. It's +EV when that happens. You have to get used to this idea: It's not about pots, its about EV.

    So what's the right amount to bet if you WANT your opp. to call? 50% of draws get bad odds if you make them pay 3:1 for the next card. That's actually a 1/2 pot sized bet. But, to make their mistake even worse (and to cover the other 30% which are profitable at 3:1 and for implied odds) betting 2/3 the pot is a good idea. If you feel they may CALL more (and if you are inexperienced at reading a made draw), bet the full pot. But.. DON"T BET TO PUSH THEM OUT! BET TO GET THEM TO MAKE A MISTAKE!!
    hehe oups, guess thats some good points again. Maybe I just need to pratice laying down hands when I know ppl hit theyr draws... Doh lol =D
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    himself fucker.
    You'd pay off better hands too easily and only commit yourself sooner if they call the flop.

    You want people to call with worse hands, that's where the money is made.

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    It also makes it harder for you to continuation bet, because good people will know that when you overbet, you have a hand, and when you don't, you don't.

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