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  1. #1
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    Default Right Fold

    From a 20+2 aruba qualifier.

    Only read on villian is that he re-raised on a flush draw previous hand. There is some pre-flop action by one of the middle positions. I am the small blind.

    I have AQ:
    Flop: Q-9-3 (two hearts)
    I bet the pot.

    Villian re-raises and two callers.

    Turn: Heart.

    I check. Villian bets pot. MP calls.

    River: Q.

    Villian bets pot (2400). MP Folds.

    Did I make the best move by folding or would 3 queens with top kicker won this pot? Did villian have a set on the flop and get a baot on the river?

    Sorry for the lack of details. I'm back in college and dont have the hand history available. I'm also rather drunk
    Dealer: bencathers has two pair, Aces and Deuces
    Dealer: Tbags has two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Dealer: Tbags finished the tournament in 256th place
    Tbags [observer]: another scumbag gets there on this site lol
  2. #2
    this sounds pretty ridiculous.. I don't see how you can bet the pot, get raised ( at least what the pot was....) and have 2 more callers. Then have someone bet the pot on the turn and NOT be playing for stacks.

    However, yes I would fold AQ immediately if I bet the pot on the flop, get min-raised, and someone calls behind. obviously if the raiser raises all his draws, and the caller is a terrible calling station, i may consider check calling the turn.
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    That is a verrry difficult decision. Hmm... I don't even have an opinion...


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    It was really tought. When MP folded, I really kicked myself on the decision. Althought he raised with a flush draw previously, I dont think he'd pull that again. It was a trip to go to the UB aruba tournament. I finished 35/300.

    Last time I played it top 2 went to aruba and I finished 3rd. I think whenever I play in this tournament I go nuts if I make one bad decision. I lost when the big stack pushed all in with A-10 suited and I had KK and the flop came 10-10-2.

    Everytime I play this tournament I have a massive tilting point. I think i tilted afterwards, but I built a chip stack of 15k before I pushed all in with AK suited and ran into AA.

    But really, would you of made this fold? I folded on the turn. I just don't know if I called and won that I would of then had enough chips to not push AI with the AK suited (and just called the 3k raise and folded on the flop)
    Dealer: bencathers has two pair, Aces and Deuces
    Dealer: Tbags has two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Dealer: Tbags finished the tournament in 256th place
    Tbags [observer]: another scumbag gets there on this site lol
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    You probably should have reraised him pre-flop. At any rate. You might think aobut getting out of the hand on the turn when there is a flush draw and you are sitting on one pair with kicker. At the very least you cant call on the turn. You need to raise or fold. If he reraises you then you know he has the flush and you fold.

    The trick here is that you think he is playing the flush draw but he might have AK and be totally missing the flop. At any rate, if he is reraising before the flop, he isnt playing 96 hearts. (probably ) So I would wonder what he had.

    The only real criticism I have is the calling. Especially on the river. He bets, you raise, if he reraises then you know he caught the flush. If he doesnt then he will probably fold. If he was playing AK or AA then he will wonder what else is out there and at best call you.

    As a footnote, people that bet or raise draws are fish. If you have 4 cards to a flush and are drawing for it, the chance of it comming is roughly 35%. So what you want are pot odds, that means you want a lot of people IN the hand and not out of it. Let someone else bet their pair and just call it and watch the pot odds carefully. Raising a flush draw is just idiotic.
    -- Kraythe
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    Raising a flush draw is just idiotic.
    If you're 35% to hit, and you have 15-20 % fold equity, play is +EV.

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