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  1. #1

    Default Flopping 2 pair from EP

    First hand of 15+1 Turbo Sng

    PokerStars Game #2494263142: Tournament #12127613, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/09/04 - 05:04:38 (ET)
    Table '12127613 1' Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Bone8u (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: StrykerDawn (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: arwyayen (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: Forty2u (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: superbugger (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: Kid Banks (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: DSPickle (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: BombD23 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: brainstorm9 (1500 in chips)
    StrykerDawn: posts small blind 10
    arwyayen: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Forty2u [Ac Qh]
    Forty2u: raises 40 to 60
    superbugger: folds
    Kid Banks: folds
    DSPickle: calls 60
    BombD23: folds
    brainstorm9: calls 60
    Bone8u: folds
    StrykerDawn: calls 50
    arwyayen: calls 40
    *** FLOP *** [2d Qc As]
    StrykerDawn: checks
    arwyayen: checks
    Forty2u: bets 160
    DSPickle: folds
    brainstorm9: folds
    StrykerDawn: folds
    arwyayen: folds
    Forty2u collected 300 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 300 | Rake 0
    Board [2d Qc As]
    Seat 1: Bone8u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: StrykerDawn (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: arwyayen (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: Forty2u collected (300)
    Seat 5: superbugger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Kid Banks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: DSPickle folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: BombD23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: brainstorm9 folded on the Flop


    2 Points for discussion:

    1. AQo early position - do you raise or check
    2. Flop of top 2 pair, do you check in an attempt to check raise or do you bet, and if so how much
  2. #2
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    I bet this hand but not as strong as you did. I probably go 100-120 and really try to price them in on the turn.

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    Even with 5 players seeing the flop ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Even with 5 players seeing the flop ?
    Yah, at 120, I doubt 5 players will see the turn. And you have the best hand here very frequently with no real turn scare cards/draws.

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    You probably have the best hand here, AA QQ no way, 22 maybe, but that might just be bad luck. There are no strong draws out there. You want to get chips into thepot, not scare people away. Given that, I dont see anything wrong with 160. Its about half the pot, and more often then not I thnk u get weak aces and some stupid queens to call.
  6. #6
    Early in tourney with no reads I am raising AQo up in early position at 5x BB, most people don't respect 3x BB raise early in tourney. However, you played it fine on the flop. Half the pot sized bet is what you should make, hoping to get called by a weak ace or a smaller 2 pair - nothing wrong with what you did. And like 'rilla said, I doubt 5 players are seeing the turn no matter what bet you throw in there, so any raise 100-200 is fine...

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