Trips on the turn - analyze

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PokerStars Game #2494285293: Tournament #12127613, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/09/04 - 05:14:12 (ET)
Table '12127613 1' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Bone8u (1350 in chips)
Seat 2: StrykerDawn (1170 in chips)
Seat 3: arwyayen (3315 in chips)
Seat 4: Forty2u (1680 in chips)
Seat 5: superbugger (590 in chips)
Seat 6: Kid Banks (2640 in chips)
Seat 7: DSPickle (1465 in chips)
Seat 9: brainstorm9 (1290 in chips)
arwyayen: posts small blind 15
Forty2u: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Forty2u [Qc Js]
superbugger: folds
Kid Banks: folds
DSPickle: calls 30
brainstorm9: calls 30
Bone8u: folds
StrykerDawn: calls 30
arwyayen: calls 15
Forty2u: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 7c 4c]
arwyayen: checks
Forty2u: bets 60
DSPickle: folds
brainstorm9: calls 60
StrykerDawn: folds
arwyayen: calls 60
*** TURN *** [Qs 7c 4c] [Qh]
arwyayen: checks
Forty2u: bets 240
brainstorm9: calls 240
arwyayen: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qs 7c 4c Qh] [Kh]
Forty2u: bets 390
brainstorm9: raises 390 to 780
Forty2u: calls 390
*** SHOW DOWN ***


For me it boils down to 'how to play trips with a medium/weak kicker

[a500lbgorilla]

Like it's the best hand.

-'rilla

[vqc]

I think there has to be a better way for u to play this hand. Although im not too sure wat it is.

If you choose to play this hand.
I think ur bet on the flop is too small. The pot is at 150, put in 80 chips. To price the flush draw. Does AQ flat call, maybe, it could also reraise, which I think is more liekly. Maybe something like 60 for reraising if he has AQ and 40 for flat calling. KQ probably flat calls here.

On the turn the next Q comes out.
You bet it becuase you might have the best hand, and again you get flat called. This has to give u a warning bell. AQ wouldve flat called becuase he just top trips top kicker. KQ still has u beat.

On the river.
I dont think theres any point in betting.
AQ has u beat and isnt folding and is probably trying to get all of his chips in right now
KQ has had u beat all the way down, and isnt folding, and is probably tryping to get all of his chips in right now.
Your not folding out any crappier queens.
I dont think ur making any extra money here with a bet, espeically with 2 flat calls coming in.

My quesiton here is
Does betting here make u more money on the river?
If you bet, you lose a shit load to AQ KQ, full houses, and make that bet when crappier Qs call.
If you check/call, you lose one bet to AQ KQ, full houses, and make that bet when crappier Qs bet.
If you check and the villian checks behind. You dont make one bet, but u also dont lose a bet.

Yes i understand that bets vary, but pretend u bet or call the same size bet each time, otherwise thinking about it would be impossible.

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Flop - I agree that betting 100-200 will make much more sense
The smooth call on the river made me worry a bit
The river - I think my bet was too agressive, I dont like checking the river after being agressive all the way, but betting te same as the turn would accomplish the same

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The results - he flopped over AQ

[gabe]

i play exactly the same, but maybe bet a little more on the flop.