bad push?

[jdubs]

I was gettin desperate, got crippled by a bad beat...was it a bad move to push this with the limper in there? I only had like an M 0f 5 or so?


No-limit Texas Hold'em $5+$1 (real money), hand #1,281,927,868
Murrieta Single Table Tournament, 19 Sep 2005 12:07 PM





Seat 1: MBC829 ($3,590 in chips)
Seat 2: nards69 ($3,760 in chips)
Seat 4: MaxPawer ($1,150 in chips)
Seat 6: bulletsproof ($1,790 in chips)
Seat 7: jdubster [QS,10D] ($740 in chips)
Seat 10: smoothace ($3,970 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
smoothace posts blind ($50), MBC829 posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
nards69 calls $100, MaxPawer folds, bulletsproof folds, jdubster bets $740 and is all-in, smoothace folds, MBC829 folds, nards69 calls $640.

FLOP [board cards AH,5C,AC ]


TURN [board cards AH,5C,AC,QH ]


RIVER [board cards AH,5C,AC,QH,3D ]


SHOWDOWN
jdubster shows [ QS,10D ]
nards69 shows [ KD,QD ]
nards69 wins $1,630.

[PokerPatNEU]

I would be pushing here too.

[a500lbgorilla]

With the EP limper, you lose enough folding equity to make this a bad push.

-'rilla

[drmcboy]

I don't hate it, depending on what your read told you about his limp. You have some fold equity here. On the other end, I usually won't limp late unless I'm willing to call SS coming over the top. His most logical holding here in my mind is a PP TT or under, and you're happy to run against 99 or below here... even an A or KJish is OK.

Get out of the 5/1 SNGs.

[jdubs]

With the EP limper, you lose enough folding equity to make this a bad push.

-'rilla

thanks, shoulda considered that...

[zenbitz]

I think you have to have AT or a pair minimum to push here, unless you have strong read that the limper will lay down (given that he outstacks you 5:1!)

[jdubs]

I think you have to have AT or a pair minimum to push here, unless you have strong read that the limper will lay down (given that he outstacks you 5:1!)

so I'm gonna wait till i get A 10 or better to push?...i might blind out easily waiting for that!

[a500lbgorilla]

I think you have to have AT or a pair minimum to push here, unless you have strong read that the limper will lay down (given that he outstacks you 5:1!)

so I'm gonna wait till i get A 10 or better to push?...i might blind out easily waiting for that!

You have to wait for AT or better to push when an ep big stack that could easily call you without even denting his stack commits some chips to the pot.

You could push QTo next hand if it's folded to.

-'rilla

[drmcboy]

I'd push pretty much anything if it was folded to me with your stack.

[jdubs]

I think you have to have AT or a pair minimum to push here, unless you have strong read that the limper will lay down (given that he outstacks you 5:1!)

so I'm gonna wait till i get A 10 or better to push?...i might blind out easily waiting for that!

You have to wait for AT or better to push when an ep big stack that could easily call you without even denting his stack commits some chips to the pot.


You could push QTo next hand if it's folded to.

-'rilla

i see your point.... guess was a lil impatient there, with my stack size, it was hard not to push it...thanks rilla and zen

[a500lbgorilla]

I wouldnt push ANYTHING next hand. He's screwed with those big stacks behind him.

-'rilla

[Fnord]

Don't you kids ever call pre-flop?