MTT endgame question (for Soupie)

[bdawg56kg]

First of all soupie, congrats on your 2nd place finish in the $10 R&A yesterday. I got to watch the whole final table. Trully awesome stuff. The call with the 23o heads up was SICK!!!

Anyway, when it got down to 3 or 4 players, I noticed you limped quite often from the button. What is the strategy behind this? In michael1123's sticky and Rippys sticky they both mentioned how once the blinds get big, you always raise when entering a pot. I noticed that this limping strategy works surprisingly well though. From what I observed it seems to throw off the rythm of the table when you limp from the button. It pretty much eliminates the possibility of SB stealing, and if the BB has a pretty good hand, he is hesitant about raising since he will not have position for the rest of the hand if you decide to call. Or is part of it that you don't want to raise too much preflop (and especially on the button) so you get labeled as a blind stealer. Or maybe you think you can simply outplay your opponents postflop. Is my reasoning correct? Also, what type of hands do you limp with on the button? Thanks.

ps. I welcome everyone's input on this topic.

[Aquinas]

I actually started doing this in the 200+15 SNGs with great success. My opponents seemed very happy to call an all in pf with QT, but would fold like a cheap suit to aggression on the flop. Also every now and then they'd do donk calls on the flop and then fold the turn, giving me more chips than just blindsteals. I sortof switched between the limps and the raising pf to keep them off balance...Some people have gotten so good at the push/fold game that they've forgotten the other parts of poker...Ofcourse if the blinds are too high this is not possible...

[Iconoclastic]

He probably has decent hands that can't stand a reraise preflop but yet is probably ahead of hands that don't raise preflop like KQo or 66. And many players do play Looser preflop than postflop.

[Chicago_Kid]

He probably has decent hands that can't stand a reraise preflop but yet is probably ahead of hands that don't raise preflop like KQo or 66. And many players do play Looser preflop than postflop.

If you peg an opponent as semi-aware and pretty cautious, you can use this play to limp in a see a flop, repping a slowplay, which can psyche out the opposition.

It's kinda like the "tricky check" post flop. E.g., say after a 3x BB PF raise, if I pause, and check a scary flop, they will often check too, sensing a trap. Then with a medium strong lead bet (40-50% of the pot) on a safe turn can take it down. I feel this can be an effective play out of position , if used sparingly.

[soupie]

From what I observed it seems to throw off the rythm of the table when you limp from the button. It pretty much eliminates the possibility of SB stealing, and if the BB has a pretty good hand, he is hesitant about raising since he will not have position for the rest of the hand if you decide to call. Or is part of it that you don't want to raise too much preflop (and especially on the button) so you get labeled as a blind stealer. Or maybe you think you can simply outplay your opponents postflop. Is my reasoning correct? Also, what type of hands do you limp with on the button? Thanks.

You answered your own question there bud. Nice work.

I will limp a lot a hands if they are passive. I only need to hit one and if they are scared, they will let me take a lot of pots down without showing.

[zenbitz]

How deep does your stack have to be to do this? 20-30BB? Are you more likely to do this if you are a bigger or smaller stack?