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  1. #1

    Default Text book PVS or Reckless

    Seat 1: streubie [3H,4H] ($1,365 in chips)
    Seat 4: rprice2832 ($2,144 in chips)
    Seat 6: Spiderman919 ($3,100 in chips)
    Seat 7: buck choy ($3,642 in chips)
    Seat 8: gunners 13 ($1,095 in chips)
    Seat 10: tjsmooth ($3,654 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    tjsmooth posts blind ($100), streubie posts blind ($200).

    PRE-FLOP
    rprice2832 calls $200,
    Spiderman919 folds,
    buck choy calls $200,
    gunners 13 folds,
    tjsmooth folds,
    streubie bets $1,165 and is all-in,

    tricky part with this move is against how many people can you pull this on and is my stack threatening enough to make this work, with a pot big enough to risk it?

    $700 pot vs. my $1,165 Stack
  2. #2
    it looks good to me.

    But be wary of UTG limpers.
  3. #3
    I'm probably just weak/tight.. but with the opponents stacks.. two limpers... this doesn't seem quite right to me. I know suited connectors especially of this type are rarely dominated (right?) but I don't know.
  4. #4
    I think you're right on the edge here, they are going to get about 2/1 on the call, which means they should call with most hands they would be limping here, depending on your image. I want to have seen UTG limp a few times in similar spots, then give it up to a raise or on the flop before I make the play here.

    While in a way it gets worse with more limps, it gets better too, because each limper gets better odds and therefore probably has a worse hand. Plus, while it's possible UTG has a hand, almost no one is going to limp behind with a big pair or AK here.
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    Buck choy has almost three times your stack and has shown a willingness to limp after the utg player. Therefore, I would suspect that he has two face cards or a pocket pair and will call and probably beat you, especially if the utg player folds. You're short-stacked but not desperately so, you're not on the buble - I just wouldn't risk this.
  6. #6
    This entire table was adicted to limping any face card with a shit kicker and at this point I had been dorment.

    You've all given me something to think about as far as reads being important for this play, but I don't think you really get a better opportunity with the way these guys were limping.
  7. #7
    You are a coinflip against 72o in this situation. With two lose limpers in front of you, I don't think it's the time to make a move.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by khabbi
    You are a coinflip against 72o in this situation. With two lose limpers in front of you, I don't think it's the time to make a move.
    Don't forget though that there are two types of limpers - limp/folders and limp/callers. Assuming that neither limper has a monster that he's trying to get action on, you only need to identify whether or not they are LIKELY to call you with a mediocre high card hand - a KTo, let's say. There are a lot of SnG players that will try to limp a hand like that and then will fold to an all in if it would hurt their stack to lose.

    I'd only really worry about Buck Choy here, since losing to you wouldn't hurt him much. Both players are getting good odds to call but rprice probably doesn't WANT to call you, unless he limped in with a monster.

    So my answer is, depends on the table texture and your reads on the limpers. Sounds like you felt they would fold (passive and not overly loose players), so it's probably a +EV move... and if they do call, you're probably not dominated. It would most likely be two live cards vs. overs.
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    i do it alot of theres no utg limper

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